RE: Help Me Understand
September 17, 2015 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(September 17, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(September 17, 2015 at 3:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I understand what you're saying, PT. But what we refer to when we say "Church doctrine" are official matters of faith and morals. That's the only part of the Church that is "infallible." The earth being the center of the universe was never official Church doctrine.
It was an official Church position.
And even if infallibility refers to faith and morals rather than facts, you'd still have to explain the moral lapses that caused even the highest members of the Church hierarchy to shelter criminals. You'd have to explain the popes who in the past maintained mistresses, or came into the position by foul play. I know what you're going to say, "The Church is infallible, but the people are human", but the Church is the people.
The idea that your church is infallible is laughable. You should know better.
I agree, PT. The only positions that we claim are infallible are Church doctrine. The people within the Church can and do still make mistakes or do things that are very wrong. No Catholic should claim otherwise.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
