(September 17, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(September 17, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: However, I would be willing to alter my opinion on the merits of debating Hovind (or Ham, for that matter) if it involved a Christian defending the scientific perspective. Since most denominations have, for the most part, made their peace with evolutionary science, I'd like to see a Christian who understands biology step up to the plate and silence these idiots publicly. That would throw a much needed wrench into the creationist camp, since most of those bozos think of creation/evolution as a kind of Christian/atheist debate. Let them debate one of their own and see how well their "arguments" stand up in front of the Christian crowds they usually bus into these events. Something like that could well give the audience pause.
That could backfire, though. They'd inevitabely get into a scriptual debate over the topic, which would support the creationist side, and the people in the audience would find that more relevant than the actual scientific debate. ,
It may just be the best thing to say, "This isn't even a debate worth having," and leave it at that.
The issue is that the creationists are already being taken seriously by a non critical audience. If no one challenges them they just spread their bullshit unopposed.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
