(September 18, 2015 at 9:32 am)Rekeisha Wrote:(September 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Unless they later change their mind and abandon their faith. In that event it will turn out that their former acceptance of Christ was counterfeit and they had never actually been a Christian at all.
You might want to change your definition of a Christian to: "A christian is someone who continues right up till they die to accept Christ's death and ressurection for their sins."
When you truly accept Jesus' death and ressurection Jesus will save you to the utter most
Heb 7:25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them
Also once you are his no one (that includes yourself) can remove you from His hand.
John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
It also say if they were one of us they would not have left us
1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us
It is all real simple. You realize you are a sinner in need of salvation. You change the way you are thinking and accept Jesus' death and ressurection as yours through faith. (not a feeling) Now you are in a good relationship with God and He will enable you to do what He has planned for you to do. Real easy.
So your only evidence is the Bible. You won't listen to us about what we believed; you're accepting what your ancient book says about us instead. Two can play that game.
You don't believe in God and Jesus because they're real. You only believe in them because you've been convinced to allow religious reasoning to infiltrate both the logical and emotional centers of your brain in such a way that you are unable to distinguish fantasy from reality concerning your religion, even if you're perfectly rational otherwise. Through indoctrination and years of reinforcement through reading and hypnotic religious services, you have created a rock-solid presupposition that steers your confirmation bias like Sulu driving the Enterprise.
You can claim that you really do know and you really do experience these things, but this is only more evidence that you just don't know how to exert critical thinking against your religion. If you were truly able to scrutinize your own claims against evidence, you would realize that they are fallacious. You're not truly a Christian because of faith, but because you just don't know how to think. If you did, you wouldn't be a Christian.
Really, we're just trying to save you from your own ignorance by teaching you to think better. Why won't you let us save you? You must hate us. It's just because you don't want to face reality, and you hate us for trying to make you. Why do you hate reality?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
