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The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(September 18, 2015 at 10:27 am)Rekeisha Wrote: How do you know you believe like I do?

Just because you see me doing what you have done doesn't mean that we have believed the same. Actually there are things that I believe you don't. Like when I say that christianity isn't based on feelings. (People keep talking about believing the bible literally. I am not quite sure what you mean by that.) Those make our beliefes different. You may feel like I am a jerk but the truth is I am here to tell you about a God that loves you and He wants to save you from Hell. How you feel about me doesn't affect the truth.

I feel like you're a jerk because you're talking and acting like a jerk. You're telling me that I never was a Christian simply because I am not one now. You're taking how I feel about it now and saying that I could not have felt it, then.

Think about it: if I talk to a divorced person about their husband, would they say he is "the love of their life, the dreamiest man they have ever known, what a fantastic human being?" No, because what they once felt (deeply in love) is no longer how they feel, once they opened their eyes and saw the truth about him. Turned out, the divorcee's spouse was a liar and a cheat, and once the truth became clear, the emotions changed.

What you're saying here is, basically, that because you are so in love with your man, that I must never have been in love because I got divorced. But I was in love before I realized the truth and before I got divorced.

So then if you still tell me I was never in love, then you're a jerk.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 18, 2015 at 11:52 am

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