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How does religion explain birth defects?
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RE: How does religion explain birth defects?
(November 14, 2010 at 11:50 pm)Lethe Wrote:
(November 14, 2010 at 11:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Skipper why does evolution allow for birth defects in humans, what possible purpose do these awful birth defects serve in evolution? Is evolution on the hunt for the perfect human or might it be that evolution is nothing more than random acts with no real purpose at all? With humans and apes sharing 98% of there DNA why is it that these types of birth defects do not show up in the apes very often?
The video in post #48 explains this fairly well.

Quote:Since a lot of evolutionist and even some on this site believe that in the grand scheme of things, humans have no more value than any other animal, why don't we just kill the defective babies and rid our species of these terrible traits?

No more value in the eyes of some unseen creator, yes, many do, but obviously it is natural to attribute more value to members of your own species than non-members. And mothers don't kill their defective babies for numerous reasons. A maternal bond being one of the more powerful deterrents, which has obvious advantages evolutionarily speaking.

Godschild Wrote:What advantages could there be, in the rest of the animal kingdom defective young are eventually discarded for the survival of the social group. The weak and sick are killed out by preditors this helps to keep the gene pool strong. Maternal bonds evolutionary speaking seems to be a flaw in the human race that most other species will ignor for the benifit of the group or the parents themselves, caring for the defective infant would only bring danger and a corrupt gene pool to a species. So where are the obvious advantages to keeping defective babies that eventually become a burden on society, just the financial cost of these individuals amount to unbelievable costs that could go to help feed the starving childern that are not genetically inferior. As I see it evolution has made a terrible mistake in the human race and could endanger the survival of humans.

Quote:Why has evolution left us with such a weakness as to feel a survival connection to such deformed animals which places a burden on the society as a whole?
The advantages of compassion outweigh the disadvantages. Social cohesion has been vital to humans' success, and one of the ways in which this was achieved was through the development of such traits as empathy and the ability to form strong emotional ties.

Godschild Wrote:Why do you believe that the care for deformed babies has something to do with social cohesion? I agree social cohesion is vital to human survival, just as the wolf, lion, elephants, bees, ants, whales and ect. need social cohesion to survive. None of those groups will let a defective baby come between the group and it's survival. The groups that I have listed have as strong a social responsibility as the human race does, if not stronger. The mammals in that group have extremely strong emotional ties.

Quote:Why should I have to pay out taxes to help keep such defective people up when the rest of the animal kingdom rids themselves of this problem.
Except not all other animals do. Many animals, mammals in particular, care and provide for their young, old, feeble, and disabled. Elephants would be just one example.

Godschild Wrote:Mammals do not let the old and defective survive to be a burden to their social groups, even elephants will leave young behind if they become a hindrance to the group, they understand that the cost of survival for the one can not outweight the cost for the survival of the group. Until the advent of man, evolutionary speaking, and his misuse of the planet, those animals had no problem with their survival.

Quote:Why are my tax dollars wasted on studies of these defects because evolution left the human race without the sense to rid itself of defective babies? Just wanting to know how you and other nonbelievers felt about this?
Again, because the evolutionary benefits of acquiring compassion ultimately outweigh the disadvantages.

Godschild Wrote:How is it that the compassion for defective childern that are a finacial burden to society can out weigh the disadvantages to the human race?

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 9, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 9, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 13, 2010 at 2:51 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 9, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 10, 2010 at 2:48 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 7:14 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Jaysyn - November 12, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 10, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 10, 2010 at 8:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 10, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 10:49 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Ashendant - November 10, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 12:42 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 12:45 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 12:56 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 1:00 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 1:37 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 3:07 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 11, 2010 at 5:26 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 5:36 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 11, 2010 at 5:44 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Ace Otana - November 11, 2010 at 7:07 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 8:00 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 7:46 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 3:31 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 11, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 11, 2010 at 11:22 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 12, 2010 at 12:08 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 12, 2010 at 10:14 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 12, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 12, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 12, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 12, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Darwinian - November 12, 2010 at 6:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 12, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 12, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 12, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Jaysyn - November 12, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Strongbad - November 15, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 15, 2010 at 1:05 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Strongbad - November 15, 2010 at 1:30 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 15, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Minimalist - November 12, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 13, 2010 at 3:36 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 14, 2010 at 3:54 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 14, 2010 at 11:27 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 14, 2010 at 11:50 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 15, 2010 at 3:27 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 15, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 6:54 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 15, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 16, 2010 at 2:35 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 16, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 17, 2010 at 8:24 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 17, 2010 at 11:55 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 18, 2010 at 11:35 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 17, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 14, 2010 at 11:34 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 15, 2010 at 2:32 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Minimalist - November 16, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 16, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 16, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 16, 2010 at 9:22 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 18, 2010 at 4:45 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by chatpilot - November 18, 2010 at 10:34 am

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