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How does religion explain birth defects?
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RE: How does religion explain birth defects?
(November 15, 2010 at 1:13 pm)Skipper Wrote:
(November 14, 2010 at 11:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Skipper why does evolution allow for birth defects in humans, what possible purpose do these awful birth defects serve in evolution? Is evolution on the hunt for the perfect human or might it be that evolution is nothing more than random acts with no real purpose at all? With humans and apes sharing 98% of there DNA why is it that these types of birth defects do not show up in the apes very often? Did evolution leave us shorted on this or has the human race not been selective enough in its breeding? Since a lot of evolutionist and even some on this site believe that in the grand scheme of things, humans have no more value than any other animal, why don't we just kill the defective babies and rid our species of these terrible traits? Why has evolution left us with such a weakness as to feel a survival connection to such deformed animals which places a burden on the society as a whole? Why should I have to pay out taxes to help keep such defective people up when the rest of the animal kingdom rids themselves of this problem, why are my tax dollars wasted on studies of these defects because evolution left the human race without the sense to rid itself of defective babies? Just wanting to know how you and other nonbelievers felt about this?

You speak as if evolution has a plan. It dosen't. You speak as if it's a conscious guiding force with a goal. I never said it did. I said science can explain why things such as birth defects happen (obviously not all, but we're getting there) and once we understand we can start to combat them.

It's religion that with all it's claims of an all loving and powerful father that's got answers to provide.

Skipper if you will read again my statement I think you will see that I in no way believe that evolution is a conscious or guiding force. The underlined above is what I would believe about evolution if I believed in it at all(macro evolution). I did not mean to imply that you said anything about evolution. I was asking questions to see how you and other nonbelievers felt about the hand evolution deals the human race. I did throw in some things to show how I would feel if I believed in evolution in it's entirety.
I love kids and no one hates to see all the birth defects that harm them worse than I do. I do not believe that God causes birth defects, I believe God allows life to deal out to us what it may and that God will help us to deal with our individual situations in His love for us. Sure I know God could stop all these things from happening and some times I wish He would because I can see how much others suffer. What if He did then would you believe in Him or find another reason not to believe as many would do. God has a problem with humans we take to much for granted and forget where our good fortune comes from. Childern do not appreciate what their parents do for them, people do not appreciate that their employer gave them a job and the list can go on and on, but the bottom line is that most people who enjoy good fortune take it for granted, no matter where it comes from. Because man (Adam) brought sin into the world there is a price all mankind will pay, I know that most people do not understand why we must suffer because of what one man did but what most do not take into consideration is that we have inherited the result of the original sin and that is the knowledge of good and evil. Because of this we all choose to do wrong things, we can not help it, I do not mean that we do bad things all the time but we do choose to do bad things at times. Now after saying all this I want you to understand that I do not believe God punishes people by allowing children to be born with birth defects, He simply is letting life go as it may in our lives and wants to be a part of our lives to help us through such horrible things. I do however believe that all bad things happen from the result of the original sin. So vent at Adam not God, He is trying to help us without showing us with imperical proof He is real. Some of the greatest joy I have experienced came from a child that was born with a birth defect and to be honest I would not trade that for anything in the world. I've seen parents treat their children as if they were a burden to them and these children were completely normal and the love the parents gave to this one with the birth defect was absolutely amazing, love has a way of over coming many bad things and no love has a way of destroying what is good.
Lethe I agree with some of what you say, I do not agree with your reference that God is a tyrant, I see Him as a loving God who will help us to deal with whatever life deals us. I do not believe that evolution had a thing to do with compassion, that is a trait we receive from God. As for the wolves,elephants and other animals if times get hard they will sacrifice their young for the well being of the group. That is not what humans do we can see that evidence in all the starving people in the world and this is just one reason I believe in God.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 9, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 9, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 13, 2010 at 2:51 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 9, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 10, 2010 at 2:48 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 7:14 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Jaysyn - November 12, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 10, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 10, 2010 at 8:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 10, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 10, 2010 at 10:49 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Ashendant - November 10, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 12:42 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 12:45 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 12:56 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 1:00 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 1:37 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by God - November 11, 2010 at 3:07 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 11, 2010 at 5:26 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 5:36 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Rayaan - November 11, 2010 at 5:44 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Ace Otana - November 11, 2010 at 7:07 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 8:00 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 7:46 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 3:31 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 11, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 11, 2010 at 11:22 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 12, 2010 at 12:08 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 12, 2010 at 10:14 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 12, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 12, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by WiiRHim - November 12, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 12, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Darwinian - November 12, 2010 at 6:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 12, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 12, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 12, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Jaysyn - November 12, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 12, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Strongbad - November 15, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 15, 2010 at 1:05 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Strongbad - November 15, 2010 at 1:30 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 15, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Minimalist - November 12, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by theVOID - November 13, 2010 at 3:36 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 14, 2010 at 3:54 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 14, 2010 at 11:27 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 14, 2010 at 11:50 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 15, 2010 at 3:27 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 15, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 6:54 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Lethe - November 15, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 15, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 16, 2010 at 2:35 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 16, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 17, 2010 at 8:24 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Godschild - November 17, 2010 at 11:55 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 18, 2010 at 11:35 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 17, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by ib.me.ub - November 14, 2010 at 11:34 pm
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 15, 2010 at 2:32 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Minimalist - November 16, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Cando - November 16, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Skipper - November 16, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 16, 2010 at 9:22 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by Loki_999 - November 18, 2010 at 4:45 am
RE: How does religion explain birth defects? - by chatpilot - November 18, 2010 at 10:34 am

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