(September 21, 2015 at 1:24 am)Luckie Wrote: Here's my signature, btw. This is the god you follow. Old Testament and New Testament are one and the same god. How loving, yes? And I do believe you missed my point on my other post. You offered me prayers.
Let me rephrase it. Just to be clear. For god so loved the world, he gave his one and only son up to die as a blood sacrifice for mans sins. That's your belief. What I'm saying is that Adam and Eve never sinned to begin with, if god gave them free will then it's his fault they used it and enabled them to disobey him by setting them up for failure in the first place. As they always say, curiousity killed the cat. God made the cat curious therefore god killed the cat.
Do you truly believe it then to be justice, for all of mankind to inherit a made up punishment? And what of the retribution? Why must there be blood sacrifice in the first place? If god is not bound by any rules but his own, why would he demand the blood of his beloved son when all he needed to do was forgive the imperfect beings he created, in the first place? Makes no sense. None. Add biblical inaccuracies (there wasn't even a city much less a town of Nazareth when Jesus was born!), historical refutation to Jesus' origins, and research into the writers of the books of the biblical texts themselves (along with varying degrees of mistranslations that happened to suit the current social and economic status)--and you'll see a clear history of an ever evolving text used to manipulate and control the masses, whilst making billions of dollars in profit. Did you know Mother Theresa enjoyed watching the suffering of those in her power to help? Imstead she send all the money raised to help the poor and siphoned it straight to the Vatican. At the very best, she was mentally ill and at the very worst? A Monster. Additionally, did you know Hitler was a Catholic? His ultimate goal included purging the Catholic Church of those who would defy him? He truly believed he was doing gods work! Speeches, lots of them. Google it. It's true, all of this is verifiable and has been posted on these very forums with historical references, and unbiased sources. Open your eyes, woman.
Jesus Wrote:"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
Luke 12:51-52
51 "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division." 52 "For from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three"
Matthew 10:34-35
34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." 35 "For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."
Additionally I retread your post and I'm wondering.. If it weren't for god are you saying you would divorce your husband? Why do you care what others think about you divorcing your husband if not for religious reasons? I ask because my mom spent 20yrs of her life being despicably treated, degraded , and humiliated by my father as he waved the bible in her face and told her she would go to hell if she left him.
Are you indeed in the same trap she fell into?
I would have divorced my husband for stupid reasons that is why I said it. I have a very good husband. Thank you for your concern.
God didn't make anyone sin He gave them a choice to obey and they chose death, since the wages of sin is death. Sin is like a disease and Jesus is the remedy. No one forced Adam and Eve to sin. We all make choices and we will be held accountable for our choices. Also all of our choice affect other around us, which include our children. Sin is a very serious thing and not only affect people but our world. If you come to realize that you are a sinner and you repent of your sins and allow God to pay the price for you then you will benefit from that choice. God will adopt you and you will receive eternal life.
If you would look in John 3 it speaks of men loving darkness. so if someone in their household chooses to follow the light of the world (Jesus) then they will become their enemy. It is not that as a follower of Christ I seeks out enemies it is that their life and testimony will not make other happy because it will makes others aware of their sin. Those who hold onto their sin become enemies of God but while we were God's enemies He died for us. That is why it says love your enemies as yourself and pray for those who persecute you. So I am sorry that You father did not display what it means to be a man and a father and tried to hide behind the bible to prove his point. He was wrong but that doesn't make God wrong.
