RE: Hi, I'm a Christian. Help Me Disprove My Religion!
September 23, 2015 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2015 at 5:23 am by robvalue.)
Hello, welcome
Good on you for seeking the truth. The first big question is what reason do you have to think any religion contains any truth? Religion is passed on by indoctrination, teaching religious mythology as fact, mainly to young children. So it becomes embedded in the brain as fact, when actually there is no evidence for any of it. Without this happening, each religion would die out very quickly.
Here are some thinking points:
1) Can you define God in such a way that any particular person could distinguish it from a figment of imagination?
2) If there is a god, then there are an infinite number of possibilities. This includes gods which just created the universe and let it develop, with no further interaction. All of science points to this being the only consistent possibility. There has never been any evidence of a "God" interacting with the universe.
3) To end up with Christianity, since there is no positive evidence, you have to first assume there is a god, then somehow eliminate every possible type of non-interventionist God, then shortlist all the infinity of interventionist gods down to those who happen to have story books lying around identifying them. And even then, you have to disprove all those except the biblical God.
4) The biblical God is a tangled mess of contradiction. It's presented as being all powerful and all knowing, while also displaying a very limited amount of power and knowledge. It's meant to be a superior being infinitely above humans, yet it displays entirely human emotions such as anger, jealousy, sadness, and frustration. It's presented as all loving, yet it creates Hell, the most evil and harmful place there could ever be. It's described as perfect, yet it feels the need to create this universe simply for its own amusement. It creates thousands of galaxies, yet is only concerned with the actions of one species on one tiny rock in the middle of nowhere. Such a being cannot exist. If there is a god, it bears no resemblance to this cartoon character.
I could go on all day! Let us know how you find all our suggestions. I'm not at all concerned with whether there is a "god" or not, as it makes no practical difference. It's the attempts to correlate it with the character in a story book that I find completely absurd, and should be disregarded.
Good on you for seeking the truth. The first big question is what reason do you have to think any religion contains any truth? Religion is passed on by indoctrination, teaching religious mythology as fact, mainly to young children. So it becomes embedded in the brain as fact, when actually there is no evidence for any of it. Without this happening, each religion would die out very quickly.
Here are some thinking points:
1) Can you define God in such a way that any particular person could distinguish it from a figment of imagination?
2) If there is a god, then there are an infinite number of possibilities. This includes gods which just created the universe and let it develop, with no further interaction. All of science points to this being the only consistent possibility. There has never been any evidence of a "God" interacting with the universe.
3) To end up with Christianity, since there is no positive evidence, you have to first assume there is a god, then somehow eliminate every possible type of non-interventionist God, then shortlist all the infinity of interventionist gods down to those who happen to have story books lying around identifying them. And even then, you have to disprove all those except the biblical God.
4) The biblical God is a tangled mess of contradiction. It's presented as being all powerful and all knowing, while also displaying a very limited amount of power and knowledge. It's meant to be a superior being infinitely above humans, yet it displays entirely human emotions such as anger, jealousy, sadness, and frustration. It's presented as all loving, yet it creates Hell, the most evil and harmful place there could ever be. It's described as perfect, yet it feels the need to create this universe simply for its own amusement. It creates thousands of galaxies, yet is only concerned with the actions of one species on one tiny rock in the middle of nowhere. Such a being cannot exist. If there is a god, it bears no resemblance to this cartoon character.
I could go on all day! Let us know how you find all our suggestions. I'm not at all concerned with whether there is a "god" or not, as it makes no practical difference. It's the attempts to correlate it with the character in a story book that I find completely absurd, and should be disregarded.
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