RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
September 23, 2015 at 10:45 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2015 at 11:39 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:It's whether they are the expression of physical mechanisms or the expression of ideas.They seem to be expressions of physical mechanisms -about which- we have ideas. This is one of the assumptions at play in the LHC (and also in the metaphysical claim of idealism -that ideas are referent), for example, which produces those results you feel are somehow indicative (if not entirely demonstrative) of the truth of idealism, and the vacuous position of materialism.........as metaphysical claims.........
Now, this evidence you are bringing forward, and it's possible truth value as criticism of a materialist position- can only be argued to be informative if you assume what you have concluded to be false... to be true. This evidence only tells us what things seem to be, but if things are not as they seem.........this evidence tells us nothing.
Quote:A collection of formulae and "values" isn't really convincing in this regard, since those are, exactly, ideas.Do you think it's possible for anyone to produce what would be required to convince you - under these restrictions? If I handed you a rock to establish that rocks were a thing - could you not simply reply that whatever the rock may be...it is an idea to you, in your experience...as you experience it? Obviously, you would reply in such a manner if I were to offer an explanation of a rock down to it's very fundament as we currently see it. Is there something between handing you a rock and a quantum explanations of rocks, or have you blocked all routes, as it were - with such a response?
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