(September 27, 2015 at 10:53 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:I guess you are failing at finding good argumentation against the truth as well.(September 27, 2015 at 10:26 am)Rekeisha Wrote: I think it is humorous that you believe that people are unbiased. We all have a biased and want our own agendas and a true Christian's agenda has change to God's agenda. Also a bias can't stop the truth from coming out. It is a myth that believe that people are unbiased or that you can't get the truth from people who are unbiased. Could it be possible that you bias view point will stop you from getting the truth? Why don't you fact check my website. You fact checked your right?
I believe it's possible for people to look at things without a presupposed bias, and I think it's possible for humans to construct methods of gaining information which are specifically designed to account for and negate the fact that human faculties tend to work from confirmation bias. These methods are called science. Confirmation bias is one of the reasons science exists; individual human experience and perception is a terrible benchmark for figuring out what's true about the world, so humans have had to devise ways of figuring out what parts of reality are actually reality and what parts of reality only exist in the minds of certain humans. Your Gaud, as it turns out, falls into that second category.
There are perfectly scientific, rational explanations for why people of all faiths experience answers to prayer, visions, prophecies, and even miracles, and Occam's Razor dictates you must use evidence to rule out these simpler explanations before moving on to the absurd and untestable hypothesis, "Gaud did it with his magic."
Oh, and Rocket wasn't plagiarizing your argument because it was good. He was showing you how terrible it is by demonstrating that it works with any god (or anything, really) that you plug into the bolded spots. It could have just as easily looked like this:
Quote:The truth is the truth. Your situation hasn't changed so the solution to your sin hasn't changed either.the son of
came down out of his great love and mercy to defeat sin and death through his contribution of spaghetti and meatballs. You can live with Him by accepting His delicious pasta. Or you can cling to your sin and be removed with it when
Or this:
Quote:The truth is the truth. Your situation hasn't changed so the solution to your sin hasn't changed either. My Dick the son of My Dad's Dick came down out of his great love and mercy to defeat sin and death through blasting it on the walls and floor. You can live with Him by accepting His stains on the wall. Or you can cling to your sin and be removed with it when My Dick comes to judge all man kind. You can keep posting your propaganda against the truth if you wish but I will continue to tell you the truth.
It has the exact same veracity regardless of what goes in that slot. You're just making assertions and threatening eternal violence as the consequence and sole reason for belief.
Cult, cult cult.
If you use science but your starting point is wrong your outcome will always be wrong. Also did you think about fact checking the website, or did you just bring your presuppositions to the website and rule it out because it didn't fit your category of what you feel is non-bias?
You act like science is this magical thing and every time you come to a conclusion using Science it must be right. Talk about drinking the kool-aid. "Science says... so it must be right" "it's scientific!" "Science proves _____ so that is how the world works". People are the one behind using the tool of science to figure things out. If people are flawed then their conclusions can be flawed. If people have the presupposition that God doesn't exist it is not a surprise that their conclusions will lead them to that conclusion. To use science you must rely on knowledge, logic, uniformity and you can not account for those things without God. Science can't disprove faith or God or anything God has set up. You can misuse the tool and blindly try to etch out your own understanding of things but you will be wrong.
The truth is God is in control of everything. He see and know everything as well as the real reason why you don't want to follow Him. If you truly used critical thinking you would have to end up at the conclusion that God is real. What is amazing to me is that He cares for you even when you do everything in your power to stick your head in the sand and pretend He isn't there. You treat Him like He is your enemy even though He seek your best. He is the most precious being in all creation. Nothing is worth more than He is and He willingly gives Himself to you. He did this on the cross for your sins and If you accept His sacrifice He will also Give yo the Holy Spirit as a down payment. He want to give you amazing things but I find that you just want to play around in the dirt. You can have so much more but you settle for only what you can do. You stunt your thinking by hiding behind "human knowledge and wisdom".
I hope you have something intelligent to say in response to my post.
