RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 1, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2015 at 2:19 pm by Redbeard The Pink.)
(October 1, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: So you can't account for uniformity. If there is nothing out there that is making things stay in order why do you assume that there will be order?
Because, regardless of why it happens, we can observe the Universe behaving in a more or less orderly, consistent fashion. There is evidence that order exists, even if there is no evidence to explain why the rules exist the way they do.
Quote:Being a true Christian isn't like a job or being a fan. If you thought I was something like that then that is further proof that you weren't a Christian. Christianity isn't just holding a set of beliefs it is transformational. It is kind of like being of a certain race. I can't undo my color because it is written on my DNA. I can't undo my faith in God because I am now a new creation. That is why God spoke about being born again. You can try but you don't get to make up your own definition about what being a Christian and what Christianity really is. You can call that indoctrination I would just call it being consistent with the truth.
I didn't always think of it in those ways, but now that I'm not a Christian I certainly do. When I was a Christian, I thought more or less like you; I thought that my beliefs were based on evidence from scripture and the world around me, and I thought that anyone who didn't believe it just didn't know Gaud like I did. Like you, I was indoctrinated into using the No True Scotsman fallacy to explain/describe people who didn't meet my perceived Biblical standard for what "Christian" meant.
You're right. I don't get to make up my own definition for Christian, and neither do you. If a person professes faith in Jesus Christ and self-identifies as Christian, that person is a Christian by the standards and definitions of all non-Christians and all the Christians who agree with that person's version of Christianity. If a person professes a positive attitude toward the Yankees and self-identifies as a Yankees fan, they are a Yankees fan by the standards of all non-Yankees fans and all Yankees fans who aren't so uppity they think they can say who's a fan and who isn't. It is the exact same thing. You're just a Yankees fan who thinks she can say that other people aren't fans just because they don't show enough team spirit or whatever.
Quote:You were not a Christian if (with scripture references)
You did not receive the revelation from God that He is God (Mt. 16:16-18)
You never gave your life to Him in order to enjoy Him and glorify Him. ( l Cor. 10:31, Ps 84:2)
You never knew God or wanted to be like Him and became like Him. (2 Cor 3:18)
You never had power over you sin nature and you didn't enjoy your sin because of your love for God. (Romans 6:11-13)
You left the faith and turned your back on God (1 john 2:19 John 10:28)
You're not a true Christian unless you follow the teachings of Christ, and Christ taught his disciples to preach a message one time, and then dust of their feet and move on if the message wasn't received. By repeatedly proselytizing to people who have not readily accepted your message, you are blatantly ignoring the teachings of Christ, which means you obviously can't be a True Christian.
Quote:I don't mind being bathed in the blood of Christ because it is the only way I will be able to stand before a holy God and be called righteous. The Kool-aid of our generation kills.
Ok, that. That right there. You just joyfully and proudly admitted that your religion revolves around drinking and bathing in the blood of a human sacrifice. How can you not see how cultish that is? How can you not fucking see that? You wonder why I keep calling you stupid? This shit right here. If you were talking about bathing in the blood of Cthulu's slain foes, it would be crazy, but because it's Jesus and not Cthulu that makes it ok? Do you even listen to yourself? You're in a zombie vampire cult.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
