RE: Max Security Prison's Debate Team Bests Harvard
October 7, 2015 at 10:31 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2015 at 10:35 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 7, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Evie Wrote: I wasn't thinking of extreme exceptions. I just meant generally.
But that's just the point. Those aren't "extreme exceptions"; he just decribed well over half the prison population's life-story, at least in part. Had he included kids who got into gangs because dad's already in prison or dead, and mom has to work three jobs to keep food on the table, so the predators get almost 24/7 to influence the kids of the neighborhood, while the authorities assume they're all already gang members and harass every kid they see, leading to a loathing of authority...
The biggest tragedy of the prison system, to me, is that I found that all but the absolute worst of them (maybe 1 in 6 were "criminally minded", or psycho/sociopaths, in the traditional sense-- still a lot, but nowhere near the majority) were actually pretty nice guys underneath their layers of programming and culture, and that under other circumstances could have lived pretty normal lives, given the environment and advantages I enjoyed.
This fraction's implications slapped me in the face, one day, when I realized that we incarcerate approximately seven times as many people per capita as the rest of the world. We have practically set up our economic and legal system to manufacture a criminal class, millions of felons who can then fill the slave-wages part of our economy and keep certain groups from attaining power or influence.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/10/incarceration.aspx
The American Psychological Association Wrote:(Bolded empasis my own.)
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.