(October 9, 2015 at 12:24 am)connietheTgirl Wrote: I'd just like to chime in from a "semi"-Christian perspective.
I don't appreciate how he goes to insult creationists by calling them "fucktards." They are human too, and its wrong to call anybody names. It really just makes the guy look stupid, no professional debater will directly insult the guy he's debating with, so why is he doing it. Now about his argument. Well, honestly I do definitely agree, you can't "just follow Jesus." The old testement is just as important as the new testement and to exclude one means you might as well not follow the bible at all. And I agree with everything he said really, i'm not going to argue with him, because I can't argue with him. So I just simply agree.
I personally feel like the bible is a colossal waste to read anyway. Its riddled with contradictions, shows just how evil God is, and isn't even followed word by word by almost all Christians (no not almost all, basically ALL Christians).
I identify as Christian, but I don't follow God. I'm probably as close to atheist as you can get, I'm just not ready to fully admit it yet. So I still continue to attend church.
Thanks for sharing the video.
Connie
Your point is well-taken, Connie, but this isn't a professional debate by any stretch of the imagination!
I promise you, if you hang out here long enough, and watch the saaaaame Creationist insanity being repeated over and over again, with them refusing to listen to actual scientists (of which I am one) or even decent explanations of why what they think about evolution is not at all what evolution actually claims, you'll understand why many of us tend to get testy with them and use degrading terminology.
I happen to agree that it's better to remain calm and present "just the facts, ma'am", but as I said, it's all but impossible when you're being barraged by an avalanche of inanity, usually by the same few posters, using the same points even after they have repeatedly been refuted the last ten times they used that argument. I hope you stick around, whatever your beliefs, because you seem nice, as well as thoughtful, and we welcome Believers of all stripes who fit into that category.
And I won't be surprised a bit, once you've picked up some of the E-v-C debate points in here, and see how willfully dishonest they're being, if you start insulting a few of them, yourself.
Welcome to the forum.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
