The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

why do they innately have these forces?

Careful, or you'll fall into infinite regression. If everything has to have a reason to exist, then using Gaud as the reason means that Gaud also has to have a reason to exist, and Gaud's creator must have a reason to exist, and so on. If everything but Gaud has to have a reason to exist, your argument is a special pleading fallacy and it ends right there.

Yes we know what justice is because it is in God's nature. Again like I said He doesn't make us sin but He does take responsibility for us.  He has made a way for us to obey Him. Hell is not the only option we can actually enjoy God. You act as if He is going to make you disobey Him. You choose your own way He doesn't make you disobey Him. He actually went to great lengths in order for you to be free from your sins and enjoy Him.

If Gaud knew in advance that I would disobey him and would wind up burning in Hell, and he could have prevented this by not creating me, and he created me anyway, then he is personally responsible for both my disobedience and my damnation because all he had to do to prevent those things was leave me out of existence and put some other poor schmuck's soul in my body. In short, yes, Gaud makes people disobey him because he creates them knowing they will disobey. Gaud's advance knowledge of all future events eliminates virtually any possibility of free will.

No, there is ample evidence in all creation. Your unwillingness to accept that is your choice

If by "all creation" you mean the Universe, then no, the evidence does not support the Bible, or the existence of any of man's gods, for that matter. The evidence on Earth alone proves that various stories in the Bible are demonstrably false, and it only gets worse the more we learn. Geology proves there was no Flood. Archaeology proves there was no Exodus. Biology, geology, radiology, and a whole mess of other fields prove that the creation story is just wrong, and that Earth is much older than the Bible says it is.

There are always purposes for God's rules and you can read them in the context of the book it was written and the people it was written to to understand them. Or you can take it out of context to support your presuppositions.

So are you a covenant theologist or a dispensationalist? Do you even know what those things mean?


You're claiming that I'm out of context, but you're not describing how I'm out of context or even what the context is, or how that's even relevant to the discussion. Your claim is that sinful behavior is harmful, and I pointed out several behaviors that are named in the Bible as sins but that aren't harmful in and of themselves. Regardless of the context of the rules themselves, these things are named as sins by the law, and they're not inherently harmful behaviors, so your claim is no good. Jumping into an argument about context is nothing but a smoke screen. If sin is inherently harmful, why aren't all sins from both Testaments actually harmful to the self or someone else?

If the worlds isn't broken there is nothing wrong with God's actions. My beliefs are not wrong and there is no better or worst.

"If the worlds isn't broken"? Seriously?


The world isn't broken because it wasn't designed, moron. To be broken, something has to have an intended purpose that it isn't meeting because it isn't functioning properly. Because the world has neither an intended purpose nor a proper function, it can't be broken in that sense.


Your beliefs are factually incorrect, so in that sense at least they are wrong. They also inspire you to go around telling people they're bad and they're going to hell just for not believing in something that deliberately and systematically hides all empirical evidence of itself, which is wrong in the sense that it makes you a bigot and a cretin.

Conjecture and I never believed in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny.

Sure you didn't.


Even if that were true, it only makes it more curious that you do believe in Gaud.