(October 10, 2015 at 12:03 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 10, 2015 at 11:52 am)drfuzzy Wrote: Sorry I'm late to the post. The OP seems to state, in a nutshell, that when a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality is confirmed, the Xtians will have to accept gay marriage and homosexuals in their congregation.
We can only hope. But we know how resistant to change they are.
And yes, I think the day is coming. Physiological differences (not caused by lifestyle, drug use, etc.,) have already been noted. And why is it that they ignore the fact that there is evidence of homosexual behavior throughout nature?
Yes, sooner or later, science will tell the xtians that here is another thing they're not allowed to hate. I wonder what they will choose after that? Oh . . . silly me . . . atheists!!!
Agreed. I find the pheromone experiments fairly clear-cut.
Dr. Wen Zhou Wrote:A new study published this month by Wen Zhou of the Chinese Academy of Sciences found a connection between a person’s self-identified sexual orientation and their ability to react to different pheromones. Specifically, participants with an orientation to men (straight women and gay men) responded to male pheromones but not female pheromones.
The experiment exposed participants to either androstadienone (found in male semen and sweat) or estratetraenol (present in female urine) and tested to see how it impacted their gender presentations of a simulated person walking toward them. In all cases, the pheromones were disguised by cloves, so participants were unaware of which pheromone (if any) they were smelling.
Straight women and gay men are aroused by the pheromones of men.
Straight men and gay women are aroused by the pheromones of women.
Bisexuals of both sexes react to both. (And some lesbians showed mixed reactions, as well.)
I don't think there's a gene for homosexuality, per se, but I have little doubt we'll find hox-gene pathways in which certain timing and/or duration of gene-switching that occurs during the two major "puberties" we undergo (one isn't really puberty; it happens in the womb late in gestation, but is a lot like puberty in that whole new sets of genes get "switched on" by controller-genes, and it has a huge effect on outcome, depending on when each of the sequence is activated, and for how long) impacts the "Kinsey-scale-settings" of the adult. It's just too complex to fully map, at present, since so many variables are involved.
As I've noted before;
one of my earliest and most vivid 'gayish' experiences was when I was in third grade and noticed the junior high boys smelled wonderful after PE class.
As for pheromones, maybe there were other forces at play, but a particular boyfriend of mine seemed to be unusually or 'perfectly' balanced scent-wise, and in protracted make out (and beyond) sessions, the effect was as if I were high or intoxicated. Not every man does that, I recall an otherwise very pleasant and eager man in Wisconsin whose scent was 100% incompatible, unfortunately, and there seems to be gradations of compatibility, or maybe it's a mix and some get closer to the correct ratio and some further ?
Damn, if you straight guys experience something similar to what I've noted while, ahem, noshing the clam, there are some profoundly lucky ladies in the world.
[shudder]
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