(October 12, 2015 at 1:18 am)ronedee Wrote:(October 12, 2015 at 12:59 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You clearly didn't read my post, which started this whole little exchange, in which I questioned why the Christians aren't banging down my door, so to speak, because I'm a heterosexual, unmarried fornicator, while they're gleefully harassing gay people all over the place, since there are quite a few more regulations against my behavior than theirs.
As for why get personal, I have many, many friends who are gay, and I have heard their stories of a lifetime of harassment from Christians, and the permanent fear in which they must live their lives because they are so often attacked physically, and don't know which of you will finally take the "kill the gays" Bible verses a little too seriously.
So yeah, I take it personally when you start talking about them as perverts.
Sorry, I didn't read your exchanges. But, for the record... i don't go around beating up gays, or even yelling insults and threats. Actually, I have a gay daughter that I love very much. And I have several gay friends that I am in touch with constantly. They know where I stand on gay marriage. We each have had "the" conversation. My daughter knows I love her and would do just about anything for her... except go to her wedding. i told her I can't go against my belief. She, and my other friends accept that from me, but not my belief. As I accept them, but not their lifestyle. End of story.
As for other Catholics? I've never, ever witnessed any do any harm, in any way to a gay person! My daughter, or any other friends of mine. Actually, I've never witnessed it in my lifetime. At least not from a declared Christian. And my hometown is not a white suburb dreamscape!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of...ted_States
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02...64885.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02...93484.html
http://www.civilrights.org/resources/civ...oogle.com/
http://76crimes.com/100s-die-in-homophob...s-updates/
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2014/12/2...th-period/
Shall I keep going?
Perhaps the rate of suicide among LGBT youth, as they are driven to depression and self-loathing by the bigoted families (like those who won't attend their own child's wedding!!) and societies in which they find themselves?
Quote:Facts About Gay and Lesbian Youth Suicide
- Suicide is the leading cause of death among Gay and Lesbian youth nationally.
- 30% of Gay youth attempt suicide near the age of 15.
- Gays and Lesbians are two to six times more likely to suicide than Heterosexuals.
- Almost half of the Gay and Lesbian teens state they have attempted suicide more than once.
- It has been conservatively estimated the 1,500 Gay and Lesbian youth commit suicide every year.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.