RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 12, 2015 at 11:07 am
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm by rexbeccarox.)
(October 10, 2015 at 4:15 am)robvalue Wrote: Like everything, God is either directly responsible for homosexuals; or he allows it to happen so gives consent; or he is not actually as in control of things as we are told.
Theists' use of the word "natural" is dumbfounding, considering they think God is supernatural, and he does everything that ever happens with magic. Homosexuality is completely natural, in any meaningful sense of the word.
Homophobia is often caused by a combination of ignorance and insecurity, in my opinion. I expect it's almost certain the men writing the bible were homophobic, in fact I am surprised there are not many more references to it (there's barely any, and Christians blow it way out of proportion).
Maybe even then they understood about "The lady doth protest too much." They seem to understand it better than many Christians today, who seem hell bent on broadcasting their thinly veiled repressed urges.
i agree i argue relentlessly with christians on {snip} about just that . God can change peoples minds they believe completely as i do also , however when i point out that God can change homosexuals yet does not its funny to see their responses and reasonings as to why that doesnt happen , as well as all their other contradictory reasonings its amusing ...
(October 10, 2015 at 5:52 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 10, 2015 at 4:28 am)robvalue Wrote: Agreed. Even if being gay (or bisexual, which is too much for simpletons to be able to jam into their black and white thinking) was a choice, who the fuck cares? Worry about your own genitals and keep your nose out of other people's, except by invitation.
"Being gay offends God" = "Being gay offends me"
Can't stop talking about the virtues of male/male anal sex = Can't stop thinking about other men's arse holes
Well, if they kept their noses out of other peoples' business, what would be the point of Christianity? I mean, they claim it's a "personal relationship with God" and all that, but it's pretty clear to the rest of us that there's a lot more involved, most of it having to do with sticking noses where they're not welcome and pressuring people psychologically.
My question isn't whether it's biological or not (it's pretty clear to me that it is), it's why they've chosen to focus on this one "sin" so heavily, out of the thousands of options, when
1) It has virtually no presence in the Bible... a couple of obscure references in the Pentateuch, a clear reference and a couple of vague references in the New Testament, and not much else, and
2) There are many, many other sins spoken of in much clearer terms, which are ignored almost entirely, such as fortune telling, for instance. Divorce is spoken against by Jesus in the clearest possible terms, and forbidden in very strong language, yet we hear nothing about it except an occasional sermon in the actual church, and nothing beyond its doors where I'm forced to give a shit about it.
I've never managed to figure out how homosexuality became their pet bigotry. I know the history of Roman-style prejudice and conceptualization of the gay thing (e.g. expected/perceived femininity of gay men, and the idea that being the "bottom" or the one doing the sucking is somehow worse than the one on "top"), but I can't figure out how it got to be where it is, as a central-focus issue for this generation's primary bigotry.
yes its very very obvious that its not so much because the Bible speak against it , divorce and remarriage and women wearing pants is also spoken against in the Bible and even referred to as an " abomination" yet its perfectly fine since they agree with it and think its ok , they simply are personally against it it has really nothing to do with what is in the Bible thats just an excuse to be against what they personally dislike and disagree with . complete hypocrites ....
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