RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
October 16, 2015 at 6:51 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2015 at 6:54 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 16, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(October 16, 2015 at 3:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: which is why you cant look to science for wisdom its so limited unless your content with the limitations of science
Science is actually much less limited than religion is. Science can use a large number of processes and tools to demonstrate that its findings are correct, and the findings of science have granted us boons that religion has always promised and yet failed to deliver. Religion, on the other hand, is limited to rhetorical hoop-jumping and dishonesty, misrepresentation of evidence, fabrication of evidence, and ignorance of evidence in order to convince anyone of its tenets.
Yes, science does impose limitations in some regards, but those are primarily designed with the aim of parsing out real things from made-up bullshit. Religion, however, is limited to a presupposed narrative that it must assume to be true at all costs. Any way you slice it, religion is vastly more limited in scope and method than science is.
The most damning thing is that science has pretty well explained religion/god itself (why it exists, what makes it work, etc.) in naturalistic and easily demonstrated terms, and yet believers have been unable to put forward or prove a better explanation, instead clinging to the presupposition that Gaud did it. Religion is also limited by the edge of science, since god by nature must crouch in the corners of scientific ignorance, shrinking a little more every time we learn something new.
i completely agree religion is very limited much much more than science is and does a terrible job at explaining the universe or God or anything really . as time passes and scientific discoveries are made it becomes more and more difficult for religious people to explain the reasoning for their beliefs hopefully all religions will become extinct and the sooner that happens the better .
It is very difficult to elucidate this [cosmic religious] feeling to anyone who is entirely without it. . . The religious geniuses of all ages have been distinguished by this kind of religious feeling, which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man's image; so that there can be no church whose central teachings are based on it ... In my view, it is the most important function of art and science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are receptive to it. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press)
(October 16, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(October 16, 2015 at 3:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: which is why you cant look to science for wisdom its so limited unless your content with the limitations of science
Congratulations, with that statement you're officially not allowed science anymore.
i never said science was invaluable i just said it lacks wisdom because of its limitations
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain