(October 18, 2015 at 2:35 am)Irrational Wrote: Women weren't allowed to vote until recently. Does this mean it's "logically wrong" for them to do so?
Well there could have been "logical reasoning" behind the original conventional wisdom of the age that denied women that right. Or it might have been a different type of reasoning.
(October 18, 2015 at 3:39 am)Evie Wrote: Yeah the 'logically wrong' thing makes no sense.
@ Aractus
If humans were bigoted for 80 billion years that wouldn't make it 'logically wrong' to be otherwise.
Social Darwinism means absolutely nothing. Who gives a fuck if throughout history people have been bigoted against homosexuality, it means nothing to it being 'logically wrong'. They were just fucking misinformed and ignorant bigots. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality at all. And no it's not entirely a religious thing but religion had a big influence on that bigotry. It's no less natural or normal, the fact homosexuals cannot reproduce means nothing. Social darwinism is immoral. There is absolutely nothing wrong logically with homosexuality and there never was. What kind of messed up definition of 'logically' are you using? You can disagree all you want, you're wrong and you've making no sense whatsoever if you think that homosexuality was ever 'logically wrong' just because throughout history people were more bigoted than they are now.
Evie, it wasn't just "logically wrong" - it was considered a mental illness by doctors up until 1973-1974. You can look it up, it's was listed a mental disorder in the DSM. Prior to 1974, in any country that used the DSM to diagnose mental disorders (just about every western country) if you told your doctor you were a homosexual, he should have diagnosed you with a personality disturbance.
Ignorance is not the same as intolerance or bigotry. People didn't understand it in the past - and most people still don't really understand it today.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke