(October 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 10, 2015 at 4:06 am)loganonekenobi Wrote: I had a thought (this is dangerous I know).
to the Bible homosexuality is a sin. A sin meaning that it is a choice by the offending human.... not the force of God.
So if that be the case then homosexuality is in no part biological since that would be God's doing.
as far as I know we as humans do not purposely align the fetus to be a certain gender or sexual orientation. Not yet anyway (Gatica!)
Yet there is some growing evidence that sexual orientation is at least in part biological.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/...idence.htm
now i'm not saying it's conclusive by any means but the evidence is getting stronger in this direction.
By that logic then God is at least in some way responsible for homosexuality.
If that also be the case then this is strong evidence that homophobic men wrote the Bible. A God of any reasonable thought would not create something then tell others to destroy it unless that god was truly evil.
Now I make the connection to gay marriage and it seems a lot more clear why the Christians are against any recognition of any sort of gay rights. It would undermine the very idea that the Bible is the word of God. which of course we fully understand.
Please give me your thoughts on this matter and maybe give me different directions to explore on this subject.
I would have absolutely no issue in saying Homosexuality is biological nor would I have any issue saying it is psychological or a mixure of both, (Just not genetic) because without a doubt their is a driving force behind it. One that a person could get lost in.
But, again. How is that different than any other sin?
Your whole argument whether you know it or not is prefaced on Homosexuality being the unforgivable sin. It's not, get over yourselves. It is a sexual sin, just like any other sexual sin/hetrosexual. That said If their was a sin scale sexual sin ranks just under unforgivable, so it is still pretty serious, but it is a sub set of sinful things WE ALL Deal with every day! The only difference is forgiveness can be found for those willing to identify and admit their sin.
That what atonement and repentance is. We do not have to over come our sin/lead sinless lives in order to find the save Grace Christ died to provide. However we must be willing to honestly identify sin in our lives and turn our hearts from it. Not want to sin. Hate our sin. That is why we must not legitimize or try and make excuses for our sin/because we will never turn from it.
Even Paul Himself in Romans 7 says he can not ever stop sinning. yet he is still saved because he identifies the sin in his life and turns his heart from it. Which can not happen if we try and justify sin under the title of 'natural behavior.' Natural does not equal righteous behavior. Righteousness is what we need for eternal life, and we can only get that through atonement because we are all guilty of sin
Please please please do not ever repeat this garbage to anyone. This is disgusting. Sin is not a real thing, but if there was ever anything that I considered sin it would be this. You have no idea the type of damage you can do with words like this. Especially to those who are young and/or vulnerable.