I can agree that to live as a Christian one must abide by its tenets. Obviously any sex outside of
marriage is bad (for the Christian). If that was the only time the "Christian" ever bothered the
homosexual then this conversation would not have occurred.
There wouldn't be such a outrage against the hate crimes committed against people that are just born
different
.
If what you say is correct then you are not part of that crowd and that is good. However, you live
in the same reality that I do. You know what happens to people who are different.
I can pull out verse and chapter but we've done this dance before. you will just point out that
those laws do not apply. Good sez I. Now tell your fellow Christians that. It's one thing to be
against so called sexual sin and maybe vote in the way you feel. At that point its up to the
democratic process come what may. It's entirely another thing when people are harassed, injured, or
killed for reasons that harms no other except YOUR god.
As for evaluating self worth, your statements sound very Buddhist to me so I approve. However sexual
desire is primal and written into our species long before cultural worth. So im not on board with
comparing job to sexual desire. to drop what is intrinsic to ones primal needs totally is to court
insanity. I agree with moderation (Socrates said as much) but total denial of primal instinct is
ludicrous.
my point about the parents killing children. let me deliver that a little differently.
the boy in a drunken rage was not indoctrinated in believing that driving drunk was okay and likely
regrets killing those people. The parents were taught that beating children to death was okay
(Proverbs 22:15 “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far
from him.”),(Deuteronomy 21:18-21King James Version). These parents also don't feel bad about beating
a sinful child because their god says it's okay. I know... no old testement Jews, but again tell the
dead that. None of these people none of these children are red herrings. where were the "real" (if
you say these are not real xtians) Christians to prevent these tragedies.
Homosexuality is but one issue that the religious claim to be right. In so doing some take this
righteousness to justify harm. If there truely was loving god would it not give the truely righteous
the power to stop or at least stand against such atrocities especialy evil acts done in the name of
that god? Not just a few times but everytime. This is your god after all right?
There are atheist and those of other faiths that have only the power to know right from wrong and
stand against these problem... no god required.
To those who are not part of the fold a "sin" is harm to another real entity.
If i am understanding correctly, the Christian mind set is that we are just low life abominations
made by God. We are born to do nothing but sin and hurt. Is that about right?
if so then my former questions still stand firm not just on homosexuality but on every human aspect.
Is God cruel?
Does God make mistakes?
Is the bible just a book written by primitive men?
marriage is bad (for the Christian). If that was the only time the "Christian" ever bothered the
homosexual then this conversation would not have occurred.
There wouldn't be such a outrage against the hate crimes committed against people that are just born
different
.
If what you say is correct then you are not part of that crowd and that is good. However, you live
in the same reality that I do. You know what happens to people who are different.
I can pull out verse and chapter but we've done this dance before. you will just point out that
those laws do not apply. Good sez I. Now tell your fellow Christians that. It's one thing to be
against so called sexual sin and maybe vote in the way you feel. At that point its up to the
democratic process come what may. It's entirely another thing when people are harassed, injured, or
killed for reasons that harms no other except YOUR god.
As for evaluating self worth, your statements sound very Buddhist to me so I approve. However sexual
desire is primal and written into our species long before cultural worth. So im not on board with
comparing job to sexual desire. to drop what is intrinsic to ones primal needs totally is to court
insanity. I agree with moderation (Socrates said as much) but total denial of primal instinct is
ludicrous.
my point about the parents killing children. let me deliver that a little differently.
the boy in a drunken rage was not indoctrinated in believing that driving drunk was okay and likely
regrets killing those people. The parents were taught that beating children to death was okay
(Proverbs 22:15 “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far
from him.”),(Deuteronomy 21:18-21King James Version). These parents also don't feel bad about beating
a sinful child because their god says it's okay. I know... no old testement Jews, but again tell the
dead that. None of these people none of these children are red herrings. where were the "real" (if
you say these are not real xtians) Christians to prevent these tragedies.
Homosexuality is but one issue that the religious claim to be right. In so doing some take this
righteousness to justify harm. If there truely was loving god would it not give the truely righteous
the power to stop or at least stand against such atrocities especialy evil acts done in the name of
that god? Not just a few times but everytime. This is your god after all right?
There are atheist and those of other faiths that have only the power to know right from wrong and
stand against these problem... no god required.
To those who are not part of the fold a "sin" is harm to another real entity.
If i am understanding correctly, the Christian mind set is that we are just low life abominations
made by God. We are born to do nothing but sin and hurt. Is that about right?
if so then my former questions still stand firm not just on homosexuality but on every human aspect.
Is God cruel?
Does God make mistakes?
Is the bible just a book written by primitive men?
