(October 23, 2015 at 6:50 am)robvalue Wrote: No one has to justify being a homosexual to anybody. It's simply a fact, and it doesn't hurt anyone, except the feelings of bigots.
Those people that persist with the idea that it's a choice are parading their ignorance around for all to see. They are also saying they are actually either gay or bisexual themselves, since they make a conscious choice "not to be attracted" to men. Otherwise known as denial.
I don't fucking care, even if it was a choice. People make all sorts of choices all the time, what's the issue? I don't care if two straight men decide to get married. That's their legal right.
That's just it, Rob. It doesn't matter if it is a choice, so there's no reason to have to "justify" anything. It's a matter of scientific curiousity, to me, to know which it is, and I think the matter is beginning to look fairly settled on the side of not-a-choice.
The only people who have something to justify are the ones who claim it must be a choice (because how else could it be a sin?), and who claim that their particular holy book is a profound insight into human nature, rather than the bigotries of the Bronze Age.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
