RE: Evidence that God exists
March 3, 2009 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2009 at 4:08 pm by fr0d0.)
@ EvF
Emotion is involved, sure. I couldn't deny it. And that it can convict to cement opinions, which is of course potentially very dangerous. Logic is paramount in importance always IMHO.
Can you give an example of something I'd have to ignore because of faith?
Faith doesn't work with evidence. Faith has to be without evidence. Faith doesn't require me to be out of touch with reality.
Nice one. Nailed
How do you show respect to any faith? They don't deserve any respect.
I respect the Pope as I respect other people in position. I don't respect his faith much and am opposed to most things he says. I don't have enough respect for ordinary people.
Emotion is involved, sure. I couldn't deny it. And that it can convict to cement opinions, which is of course potentially very dangerous. Logic is paramount in importance always IMHO.
Can you give an example of something I'd have to ignore because of faith?
EvF Wrote:I just understand faith as belief without evidence. So how is faith logical? What do you do if your faith doesn't fit with the evidence so you are out of touch with reality?FIXED
Faith doesn't work with evidence. Faith has to be without evidence. Faith doesn't require me to be out of touch with reality.
(March 3, 2009 at 3:47 pm)Even Adam Wrote:Almost exclusively with ideas about yourself and your experience with reality.(March 3, 2009 at 3:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You're presented with rational ideasRational ideas to do with the big man in the sky?
(March 3, 2009 at 3:51 pm)Mark Wrote: It's becoming socially unacceptable to say that one doesn't respect someone's belief, but I fail to see why. I don't respect any religious belief, and that is a fact. The are many religious people that I respect, and I think that an attitude of respect should be anyone's default position toward people. Beliefs on the other hand are not people, and I fail to see why any of them is deserving of respect.
What does it mean to respect a belief, in any case? What do I do to express my respect for Christian belief, for example? Find a statue of the Virgin Mary and go genuflect?
I am happy to accept that the Pope in Rome, among others, does not respect my atheist belief (which is not, however, a religious belief). But he should not expect me to respect his Roman Catholic belief. And I don't.
Nice one. Nailed
How do you show respect to any faith? They don't deserve any respect.
I respect the Pope as I respect other people in position. I don't respect his faith much and am opposed to most things he says. I don't have enough respect for ordinary people.
