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Atheism "rights & wrongs"?
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RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"?
I don't know much about STEM cell research, but I know that it basically kills embryos in order to study them and that that embryo holds about 100 cells, none of which are conceivably made to feel any pain or anything at all compared to the brain of a fly which holds about 100.000 cells. And we swat flies like crazy.*

I made the mistake of not making any sense here, earlier on. Ignore the previous rambling about fetuses and such. I'm kind of tired and mixed up some words and some ideas. I don't know if we'll sacrifice fetuses for the purpose of research just because we do it when it comes to not wanting to have babies, but you're right to worry about it, in some sense - not that it would necessarily happen but we should discuss it when we have all the facts.

LGBT people are born the way they are, not 'made' this way. It's ok to be grossed out at the thought of them having sex/sight of them kissing, I guess. I would bet the feeling is mutual when it they're placed in the same situation contemplating your practices. Hell, you can even hate them for all I care. But they're human beings and they have a right to do whatever the hell they want with their personal lives, just as you are and just as you do. It's nonsense to think they won't have a place in an advanced society, at least in the context of only heterosexual people having a place in it. As long as we'll be a sexually active species there will be a place for any sort of orientation, but not for all practices(e.g. child molestation, zoophilia).


Of course we shouldn't murder. Thank goodness we're not all a bunch of psychopaths or we wouldn't have made it this far. But sometimes killing people might be necessarry. And I guess that answers your gun dilemma too. In a society completely devoid of any sort of fire weapons, psychopaths would wreak havoc left and right. There would be other means of doing so and the average citizen wouldn't be as able to protect himself against it. This is not true for every society, I guess. Some do very well with extreme gun regulations but others couldn't conceivably change that radically in a short period of time - like the U.S. So for the time being, at least in those societies where guns are deeply entrenched in the zeitgeist, there's no erasing that fact. But still, improvements could be made, of course.*

Sadly, I don't know much about this topic. But as a final thought, I do believe I should have the right to own a gun to protect myself and my assets, should there be the need to do so. At least in today's society, I believe that's a necessary option to have. But I also think getting one should be a very difficult process - they shouldn't be giving them out like candy.*


I don't really think that you would help society by procreating right now. Wait a couple of centuries to see if the population/resources ratio is a good one and then make as many babies as you want. At least that's my take on it.


I like it very much that you're being honest despite holding some small amount of controversial views. That's good. Keep it up and post some more. =).

*The asterisk marked paragraphs are to mark those things that I learned/changed my mind about after reading one author in particular - Sam Harris.
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Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by RationalAtheist - October 28, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by ignoramus - October 28, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:40 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Rhondazvous - October 28, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by ignoramus - October 28, 2015 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Rhondazvous - October 28, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by ignoramus - October 28, 2015 at 6:49 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Minimalist - October 28, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 8:41 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by paulpablo - October 28, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by RationalAtheist - October 28, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Athene - October 28, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Athene - October 28, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by The Grand Nudger - October 28, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by RationalAtheist - October 28, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Catholic_Lady - October 28, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Catholic_Lady - October 28, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Crossless1 - October 28, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Divinity - October 28, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Catholic_Lady - October 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Divinity - October 28, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Atheism "rights & wrongs"? - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:25 pm

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