(November 6, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(November 6, 2015 at 9:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yog.![]()
You got a similar problem as the Nutter.
Both of you try to formulate and express thoughts that are beyond your capacity to understand.
You need to start with good foundation and for foundations in this case i mean to understand how the mind works.
I already explained you how the onion mind works.
There are layers and layers of mind.
From the outer mind to the inner mind or the I or consciousness.
The problem with most people is that they can not go deep into the real I so they have no choices but to use the outer mind which doesn't really help much and with this limited knowledge they think they know everything.
As a driver is inside a vehicle also a consciousness is inside a body as life goes on.
This being stuck to a body comport that you are in charge of that body.
You give orders, you are the boss.
You don't need to be material-physical to make that body work.
Why should you?
There is no need for.
But let us go back to the onion mind.
The inner layer of the mind is 100% pure and abstract in the sense that is not physical but as the layers get more and more externalised toward the outer mind there is less and less purity and the differences
between outer mind and the brain become more and more similar so the connection become possible.
The subtle (pure consciousness) get connect to the material-physical part because in between we got like a bridge and that bridge is made of the external layers of the mind.
In this way the pure consciousness connect to the material-physical part without being physical itself.
This is how the system works but i really doubt you can understand.
I thought we were talking about evidence. Where's the evidence for any of this?
Yog, you remind me that slow learning kid that needed private tutoring because he couldn't get the message the first time in class.
So let me be your tutor hoping to wake up your dormant mind.
How do we know that there are layers and layers in the mind?
Simple.
If there wouldn't be any you wouldn't need to think and think.
The answer would come straight away in your mind or even better it would be already there.
You wouldn't need to think.
But we all think because very often the answer is not there.
By thinking we penetrate the inner layers of the mind and after some time the answer pop up.
Not always of course because most people haven't trained their mind so they can only penetrate
some of the inner layers which i guess is a major problem even in this forum.
