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Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
(November 14, 2015 at 3:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Sorry, I asked for numbers, not videos. Do you have statistics? Or ar you going to appeal to authority on the sly?

Give me data, or shut your piehole.

I'm not giving you anything on the sly. The only difference between what the USA does when it instigates wars, and what another power does is which side of the conflict you belong to. If it's the other side it's labelled "terrorism" and if its your side "counter-terrorism". Labelling ISIL a terrorist organisation is disingenuous - they are taking over land by military conflict, exactly what has been done for millennia, and exactly how the USA became the USA.

The more truthful, more honest thing we could say is that we want to put military conflict behind us as a species; it's in our past and we want to learn from it and move on from it.

You want data? I'll give you data.

1898-1934 the USA instigated the Banana Wars. This involved the USA instigating war, sorry I mean terrorist activity, with a number of Central American nations such as Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and others; the reasons were for the USA's economic interests in the region, and it left those countries economically devastated, and even today they continue to be third-world regions of the world.

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
(War Is a Racket, 1935)

Shall I continue?

The 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état was a covert terrorist operation carried out by the CIA that disposed the democratically-elected head of state in Guatemala, and installed a US-backed military dictatorship.

The Vietnam War, perhaps not started by the USA, but their involvement in terror raised it to a different level and left Vietnam devastated for decades. Many war crimes including the torture and murder of POWs, and the slaughtering of innocent civilians were either committed or supported by the US military.

Since 1980 the USA has been conducing terrorist activity in the middle east, and other places, including in: Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Panama, Haiti, Sudan, Kosovo, and other countries.

Since 2002 they have operated an illegal concentration-camp/death-camp in Cuba in which detainees have been tortured, killed, and denied their rights under the Geneva Conventions.

The claim that the USA is the worlds leading terrorist state is easily supported with data.

(November 14, 2015 at 3:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: By wishing misfortune on people who don't necessarily support the bad decisions of the American government ... that's how, you dick. Perhaps you'll learn how to consider individuals as individuals regardless of their nation of origin. Me, I don't think you're so bright you can reach that sort of thinking; I think you're a self-righteous flag-happy cunt who thinks that your country is a great place to be emulated, and you yourself do not even see the blinders you place over your own peripheral vision.

That's how you're being a dick ... Dick.

Don't go thinking that I love all Muslims. I don't. I specifically despise their religion, and Scientology - and I'll tell you why. Because right from the beginning, Islam was not only a religion, but also a political persuasion. Other religions, like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism don't restrict political views. They can influence them of course, but they don't have political views that are intertwined with their religions the way that Islam does.

Again, all I wish is for the US government and civilians to feel the same oppression supported by the US government and military elsewhere. Not more, not less, the same.

And I would also like Bush, Cheney, Obama, and everyone else guilty of war crimes, of the UN convention against torture, and other international crimes to be held accountable.

(November 14, 2015 at 3:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And yes, that justifies As for war hungry countries like the United States, I hope to God one day that Russia or Saudi or India or China starts war in their country and puts them in their goddamned place, because we all know that the answer to misery is more misery.

Really, are you this stupid, or is this just a play you're putting on for kicks? The answer to oppression is not more oppression. The answer to suffering is not more suffering. The answer to death is not more death,

If you're so dull you cannot see that much, I can only be happy you're in a place so irrelevant that you have no weight to throw around. Also, I hope the other poms are a few points brighter than you. You're not exactly the sharpest blade on the chopping block.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: As for war hungry countries like the United States, I hope to God one day that Russia or Saudi or India or China starts war in their country and puts them in their goddamned place.So you can't fucking tell me with a straight face that America doesn't deserve to feel the same oppression that they have bestowed upon others. I'll be very happy when someone invades America (again) and displaces the present inhabitants and confines them to tiny camps and settlements, and maybe that will stop them from instigating wars everywhere else.

That's because in your infantile desire for revenge, you're unable to see that misery for one person is misery for all.  I'll recommend you go reread your Locke, and ponder what it means to be an island or a continent, if you are able to think that deeply; and I'll challenge you to drop your parochial views, if you're able to do so. Color me skeptical.

And I'll repeat my call, that you're being a dick, and you should stop it ... except that by now, it's clear you don't have the wisdom to avoid throwing good money after bad.

Dick.

You don't seem to realise that the misery that the USA has created through terrorist acts (most of them illegal) are still being felt, and will be felt for centuries to come. As much as anything else I want the US government disposed of by military force so they cannot continue their illegal military terrorist activities.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


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Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 10, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 10, 2015 at 4:29 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 10, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Iroscato - November 10, 2015 at 2:16 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 10, 2015 at 3:17 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Rhondazvous - November 12, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 12, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 12, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 12, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 10, 2015 at 4:26 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by vorlon13 - November 10, 2015 at 4:24 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Losty - November 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by robvalue - November 10, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by paulpablo - November 11, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 12, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 14, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 16, 2015 at 3:30 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by IATIA - November 13, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 14, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by IATIA - November 14, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 14, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 14, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 14, 2015 at 10:48 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 14, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by IATIA - November 14, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by vorlon13 - November 14, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 15, 2015 at 12:21 am
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 15, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by abaris - November 15, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 3:15 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 15, 2015 at 3:32 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 15, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 15, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by vorlon13 - November 15, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 15, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by IATIA - November 15, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:48 am
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by ignoramus - November 16, 2015 at 5:58 am
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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by brewer - November 17, 2015 at 1:24 pm
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