(November 18, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Probably some of the most clever writing I've ever seen is in the 90's Simpsons episodes. You know the best seasons, about season 4 to season 7, but there were good episodes before and some after that as well. The stories, the character development, how well they manage to make us laugh, how clever the jokes can be in terms of irony, satire, how well they can be at subtle humor or visual humor, geek humor, etc., or even connect with them on an emotional level at times, I have not seen a show that can match the writing of the Simpsons.
Yes Family Guy can bring laughs but their jokes aren't very clever and the stories and character development seem almost like just stock cliches and whatever. South Park on the other hand, while maybe not as clever as the Simpsons, are very good at what they do, and usually that is making absurd stories or good commentary, or even both. It seems half the time they are satirizing current events or certain trends, the other half of the show is putting the characters in these silly absurd scenarios. I'd say it's up there but it's not as great however as the Simpsons because, well, the stories and jokes still aren't as clever or relateable as the Simpsons.
The only show that seems to come close is cancelled, again. That show is Futurama. Well, that and perhaps The Critic. Yeah I know there's also King Of The Hill and Beavis & Butthead, and a bunch of other shows. But to be frank, King Of The Hill was only good for the first 2 seasons. It stopped being as funny and it started getting needlessly complex, which took away from it. Beavis & Butthead was just silly. I like it but it's not even close to being clever in its writing. Same could be said for Archer or Metalocalypse or any of those shows.
I think the Simpsons even beats the live action sit-coms that I've seen. That isn't to say there aren't good ones out there, but none as great.
One can also not ignore the cultural impact the Simpsons have made above all others. You reference the Simpsons and you get the same response that you'd get if you referenced the 3 stooges or I Love Lucy. It's not just another show, it's an icon. If all the cartoon shows were cancelled right now, in 20 years the Simpsons would most likely be looked back on more so than Family Guy or South Park. That fact alone also raises the Simpsons above the others.
So what are your thoughts? Do you think other shows could be as great as the Simpsons? Do you think the Simpsons is an over-rated show that doesn't live up to their hype?
I pretty much agree with you, but if I was to choose which cartoon I'd like to watch now, it probably wouldn't be the Simpsons just because of the fact that I watched them to DEATH in the 90s.
With family guy and southpark I change my mind quite a lot about, I used to think southpark was better because it does involve very clever satirical plot lines. My favourite examples are make love not warcraft, imagination land and the one about guitar hero. I also like the really random 80s film references, like scarface and total recall.
But southpark can sometimes fall pretty flat in some episodes and maybe family guy is more reliable, I think you have to like random humour to like family guy. I remember one episode where Peter randomly smokes crack and he punches through a wall, gouges his own eye out then jumps up through the ceiling, I thought that was one of the funniest things I've seen but the girl watching it with me was just blank faced.
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