(November 29, 2015 at 8:11 pm)paulpablo Wrote:There is no "Side of disbelief". It is a rejection of belief, until proven, which is actually the opposite, atheism is treating all beliefs as false until proven otherwise, which is entirely equal, whereas religious peoples will treat other beliefs false except their own without even considering them to be true. You can't use that argument, or else you can say anyone and any position is a one sided view. Oh well you don't believe in my unicorn fairy astronaut? Well you're just being one sided with disbelief.(November 29, 2015 at 3:33 am)Heat Wrote: From what I've observed, I believe that religion invokes a one sided world view.
This is not true for all religious, but a large majority, you can see it prominently in the US.
For the religious, let's say there's a christian for example. This Christian likely views the world by religions, or identifies them, but most likely he will have little knowledge of what Muslims believe[for ex.]. This creates a distance between those two people. I can garuntee most religious see the world as whatever they believe, and then some other weird people that believe something else. That's at least what I observed in my Bible class. It creates a one-sidedness, where you pay attention to those who follow your religion, and it's not that you don't like the others, but you disregard them because you don't understand their beliefs, this is what believing one religion over another creates, it creates this gap of understanding, whereas Atheists and others see all religions as equal reason to believe based on the lack of evidence for all of them, a religious person won't see it that way. They will see it as people who believe what they believe, but fail to understand how someone can believe something else because of their pre-conceived bias and communal acceptance of their religious preference, not considering other religions as equal reason to believe in.
Thoughts?
(PS: Sorry if I generalized. Normally I can always find the right words, but I kinda lost track of where I was going after feeling like I knew what to say at the start, and wasn't really feeling it, so go easy on me, hopefully you understood what I was saying.)
I think it might be more accurate to say that a one sided world view invokes religion, and an open mindedness to all religions usually invokes Atheism.
How many religious people would be religious now if their parents hadn't already told them what they're supposed to believe in before they even know about the contents of holy books?
How many of them independent of cultural/social pressure would pick up a quran or bible and think "Wow, I need to show this to my friends, obviously god wrote this".
I think one sided views are pretty common among people over a certain age. Muslims view all beliefs as equal, except their own, which is the one that they believe in. Atheists might see all religions as equal but they usually favour the side of disbelief over the side of belief. So in this way once you have decided disbelief is the most logical conclusion to religions it's Atheism which is invoking a one sided world view.
Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, time is a very important resource and if you remain open minded to every proposition every nut job puts forward to you you're going to spend your life debunking information that it would be wiser just to ignore.
My one sided view is that people have tried to make supernatural related claims all throughout history. With a constant production of books written with the supervision of god since the invention of the written word, and none of these books or claims has enough evidence to back it up as actually being supernatural or from god.
But I only came to this one sided world view after judging the religions local to me (Islam and Christianity) with open mindedness and equality, and with a bit of reading about the history of civilization, religion and cults in the world.
If someone comes to me with their new religion and book now though I might have a read of it to make fun of it, then maybe use it as toilet paper or have fun seeing how far I can throw it. It's safe to say that these days I do have a one sided world view when it comes to religion and that's the side of disbelief.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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