RE: Christian argued that everything must have a creator
November 30, 2015 at 6:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2015 at 7:00 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(November 30, 2015 at 6:44 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(November 30, 2015 at 5:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Your argument doesn't really matter to us God believers because part of believing in God is believing that He is a super natural being who, unlike us, has always existed.
Yes.
We are all well aware that you are fine having unsupported, irrational, illogical, unevidenced beliefs.
Why it doesn't matter to you that your beliefs are such, is another matter.
Wishful thinking does seem to be the most probable reason.
I'm not sure why anyone is taking issue with my post. The OP asked if his own argument was a good one to make to his theist friend. My response was that no, the argument does not work because the very point of believing in God is to believe that He is a supernatural being who is not bound by the same laws of nature that we are. One of those laws being the fact that we all had a specific point in time when our existence began. The argument would only make sense if the particular god the person believed in was not supernatural... but if that was the case, he wouldn't be a god in the first place.
I'm not saying you all need to believe what I believe, only saying why the "who created God" argument will not work for a God believer. No need to get your panties in a bunch and throw out every insulting adjective you can think of.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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