RE: Why all people think that Assad and ISIS are the only choices?
December 1, 2015 at 11:12 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2015 at 11:14 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 1, 2015 at 3:09 am)Cato Wrote: Russia's concern with Assad disappears the moment we promise the Cossacks the fucking warm water port they've been pining for going on 300 years. Tell Putin that Al Ladhiqiyah is instantaneously Russian.
Honestly, how hard to you think it would be to convince a majority of Americans (not me and you, a majority of Americans) that invading the ME again is the right move? I think it would be surprisingly easy regardless of political affiliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INy4gaUrCL4
The economics of American owned energy companies has changed. Most are heavily invested in shale and other non-traditional extraction methods, which have a pinch point of $80/barrel. American oil companies would welcome any instability that would push oil over this pinch point. Not only that, but we out-produce KSA by almost 2 million barrels a day. The average citizen may bitch about consequences, but I guarantee that American oil companies won't bitch about the price per barrel going up if their closest competitor was suddenly to face production problems.
1) I don't think we have the power to deliver on such a promise.
2) As for convincing Americans to invade the Middle East again, I think you'll always have some who are in favor of bombing the shit out of brown people no matter the reason, but I also think that the misadventures of the last decade-plus have had an impact.
3) It's a fair point you make about the oil companies, but as I said, it's not just the oil companies, but also companies that rely on cheap energy. And if KSA loses national integrity -- and it will if the government is overthrown -- $100/bbl will be the starting point for the prices to come, and I wouldn't be surprised to see $200/bbl in such an event, in today's dollars. The broccoli we eat? The fertilizer needs oil. The plastic it's wrapped in? Ditto. The truck which takes it to the store? Yep. And so on. If you supported such a move as President, you'd best do it in your second term, if you want one. And spread the arm-twisting liberally, because no one in Congress is going to want to jeopardize their seat for it.
(December 1, 2015 at 5:35 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The main reason for the war in Syria is that the US and the European countries are trying to steal Syria. So they are funding and arming dummies to do their dirty work.
Of course. Thanks for the input.
