DeistPaladin Wrote:Uh, will try. You cannot hold it against a holy book that it is not older than the prophet who received it.(January 2, 2011 at 4:36 am)Regens Küchl Wrote: Please do not dispose the child along with the bathtub. You are right with this reasons playing a role for the excellent preservance of Allahs word.I don't follow your logic here at all. Can you rephrase?
Mohammed (blessed be his name) was the last prophet, so Islam of course is younger. Arabic was accepted by Allah as the best form of his word, because it is a beautiful and living language used in a great part of the world. Because of the Quran being the true word, the followers were extemely and rightfully determined to preserve it.
All true, but all this is rather more evidence for Islam and not against it.
Allah choose to clothe his final words into a tongue that would not need much translation. That is only logical and you cannot hold Allahs logical choice against Allahs religion.
Because it is an extremely precious book, people preserved the Quran in his original words as they did for example with the works of Shakespeare.
But if you do not hold the preservance of Shakespeares works against their worthyness, you can hardly hold the presevance of the Quran against the truth of Islam.
DeistPaladin Wrote:The holy prophets were at no time scholars in a contest of who does it at best.Quote:And so you must admit that it was wrong to say he was no great prophet, as it would be wrong to say a darkness was not black.
I admit that you've defined all prophets are automatically "great", a definition I don't hold. I personally use the word "great" in measuring the achievement of results.
DeistPaladin Wrote:I do not speak for Christianity, I speak for Islam. You come along, you tell me that the christians got it wrong in so many ways (which is true) and present that to me as an argument against Islam.Quote:Hahhere again I have to break to you that the fact that Jesus was highly misinterpreted and on him was based an incorrect cult (Xians), is not an argument against Islam but is a massive argument for Islam.
I don't follow. How exactly?
Do you not see that this is an argument for Islam ? Please think it through.
If you yourself state that christians are wrong, than that means that muslims could very well be right. (In context to your plan to choose between the two religions.)
DeistPaladin Wrote:As you like it. But is he responsible for every error people make in his name after he is dead and gone.Quote:Besides: It was not the prophet Jesus fault, but the fault of people that he was misinterpreted and not all Xians got it totally wrong.
A teacher shares responsibility if most of his class fails to learn.
And you will grant that Paul preached after Jesus lifetime.
Here is an example : Do you hold Charles Darwin responsible for modern racism? If not why do you think Jesus is responsible for a church and religion built after his lifetime?
DeistPaladin Wrote:And evangelical churches are less polytheistic than catholic ones. The christians cannot make it right even for and among themselves. Only Islam is truly monotheistic and teaches the right path.Quote:Before Mohammed(blessed be his name) great parts of the ancient world and some emperors were arian, whose concept of Jesus was not so far from the muslim concept of a great prophet. Here is the arian concept:
Arian Christianity is a 3rd century variant on the Christian theme, some 200 years after Paul led the Christians astray. I therefore don't see how this is relevant. Even if it were, Arius taught that Jesus was an angel or lesser god, sent by God to be the intercessor. This is not consistent with Islamic teaching.
DeistPaladin Wrote:I doubt that the Holy Spirit hands you a divine book wherein you can read the thuth black on white.Quote:Not the poetry, but the message should you let enter your heart.
This argument is a wash with the Christian "Holy Spirit" arguments re: the Bible.
DeistPaladin Wrote:It makes the difference nonetheless.Quote:At last once muslims were settled they were more tolerant than xians.
That's a low bar.
DeistPaladin Wrote:Christians receive hell for not aknowledging Allahs final prophetQuote:You cannot deny the fact that while the xian west sank down in his dark middle ages, suppressed and destroyed scientific advance as well as many early scientists, the islamic orient came to blossom in regard of culture and sciences.
And as Ash has pointed out, the Christian and Islamic world switched places since. It seems the more devoutly religious a society is, the more backward.
This, btw, is what I mean by "not a dime's worth of difference". Islam and Christianity have the same effect on society where they have the power to. The marketing may be a bit more crude with the former but the results are the same once the package is purchased.

