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Why do christians ever convert to islam?
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Why do christians ever convert to islam?
As far as i can tell the punishment for shirk in islam is hell, forever, and will not be forgiven by allah.
Also that christianity is a form of shirk.
This being the case why would any christian convert to islam? Surely for a christian realizing the quran is the ultimate truth it would be a pretty depressing time, you just realized you're definitely going to hell forever.


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#2
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Because they are fucking stupid?

Just a guess.
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Is there such a word as "irrationalization?" Like so many theists, they take comfort in bed of ignorance, they don't really want to know or understand what their god has said. They cherish their "seeing things through a glass darkly" and bank all of their hope on a fair and "just" god who will love and save them despite their shortcomings.
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(February 27, 2013 at 10:30 pm)paulpablo Wrote: As far as i can tell the punishment for shirk in islam is hell, forever, and will not be forgiven by allah.
Also that christianity is a form of shirk.
This being the case why would any christian convert to islam? Surely for a christian realizing the quran is the ultimate truth it would be a pretty depressing time, you just realized you're definitely going to hell forever.
That doesn't make any sense, if a Christian converts to Islam they will have all their previous sins forgiven, including the sin of shirk.
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Desire to fuck donkeys and 9 year old children?
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(February 27, 2013 at 10:30 pm)paulpablo Wrote: As far as i can tell the punishment for shirk in islam is hell, forever, and will not be forgiven by allah.
Also that christianity is a form of shirk.
This being the case why would any christian convert to islam? Surely for a christian realizing the quran is the ultimate truth it would be a pretty depressing time, you just realized you're definitely going to hell forever.


Because to the idiotic hopeful the grass would seem greener on the other side even if the other is a sulfurous wasteland?
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(February 28, 2013 at 12:50 pm)mo66 Wrote:
(February 27, 2013 at 10:30 pm)paulpablo Wrote: As far as i can tell the punishment for shirk in islam is hell, forever, and will not be forgiven by allah.
Also that christianity is a form of shirk.
This being the case why would any christian convert to islam? Surely for a christian realizing the quran is the ultimate truth it would be a pretty depressing time, you just realized you're definitely going to hell forever.
That doesn't make any sense, if a Christian converts to Islam they will have all their previous sins forgiven, including the sin of shirk.
yeh you're right, someone already answered this for me though on another forum. I still think its a bit of a harsh punishment for muslims to give christians since the religions are so similar to each other, it means that stalin actually has a higher chance of going to heaven than the local village priest.


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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Both traditions claim there is only one god. Muslims will claim that the christian god is Allah.
So perhaps the reason some christians convert to islam is because they like to be policed by a stronger motive.




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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(February 28, 2013 at 7:33 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(February 28, 2013 at 12:50 pm)mo66 Wrote: That doesn't make any sense, if a Christian converts to Islam they will have all their previous sins forgiven, including the sin of shirk.
yeh you're right, someone already answered this for me though on another forum. I still think its a bit of a harsh punishment for muslims to give christians since the religions are so similar to each other, it means that stalin actually has a higher chance of going to heaven than the local village priest.
If Stalin died as an Atheist, he has no chance of going to heaven at all. Christians have a better chance.
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RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Stalin had a personality cult much like your Muhammad
I did find this interesting though.

wiki Wrote:Religion
Main article: Religion in the Soviet Union
Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. He followed the position adopted by Lenin that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[95]
Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938.[96][97] During World War II, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic organization, and thousands of parishes were reactivated until a further round of suppression during Khrushchev's rule. The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed and persecuted. Many religions popular in ethnic regions of the Soviet Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Baptists, Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism underwent ordeals similar to that which the Orthodox churches in other parts of the country suffered: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and other religious buildings were razed. Stalin had a different policy outside the Soviet Union; he supported the Communist Uyghur Muslim separatists under Ehmetjan Qasim in the Ili Rebellion against the Anti Communist Republic of China regime. He supplied weapons to the Uyghur Ili army and Red Army support against Chinese forces, and helped them establish the Second East Turkestan Republic of which Islam was the official state religion.

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