(December 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:No it doesn't, what kind of bullshit is that? People who are indigenous to the land always feel a connection to it, and that's something we've learned pretty conclusively over the last few decades. Let's put it this way: just because "Australia" and its constitute states and territories exist doesn't mean that the Indigenous boundaries don't exist. Yes the Romans occupied and controlled the land, but just as "Israel" today, the indigenous people of the land feel that it is theirs and have their own territories.
where are you getting your history from? A cereal box?
In 722 BC the Assyrians overran the northern kingdom. The bible claims that the "Ten Tribes" were moved out and others brought in. Assyrian records, doubtlessly more accurate as they were written at the time, also indicate that the upper classes of society were relocated and the area, which included Galilee, was under Assyrian control until the Babylonians took it from them and then the Persians took it from the Babylonians and then Alexander took it from the Persians and finally Alexander's generals, Ptolemy and Seleucus fought over it. The Seleucids were the last people on top of the mountain bringing us down to the mid 2d century BC. So when did Galilee come under "Jewish" control? Obviously you have no clue so I'll tell you.
It didn't have to be under Jewish control at all, that was my point. The Hebrew people were indigenous to the land, yes their stories in antiquity do not match the historical and archaeological record, but that doesn't change the fact that they'd been living in the land for several centuries and felt a strong connection to it. It doesn't matter if the Egyptians, the Assyrians, or the Romans were controlling it, they still felt that it belonged to them.
(December 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You started the thread with a good question about the gospel's silly geographical errors, which are well known. But you need to learn the history of the region and you are not getting that from the stupid fucking bible.
I didn't say the Jews controlled the land (they never controlled the whole of the "promised land" in the Levant, ever), I said they lived in it and felt it belonged to them. Just as exactly what they're doing in modern times in Israel, except that this time they aren't the indigenous people of the land - and the indigenous people (i.e. the Palestinians) are the ones being oppressed just as they themselves were under the Roman empire. Just as ISIL feels the land in Syria & the Levant belongs to them as well FYI.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke