RE: A series of my arguments/points over the years.
December 10, 2015 at 1:06 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2015 at 1:07 pm by Angrboda.)
(December 9, 2015 at 11:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 3. If we are souls why would it not be obvious we are that?(emphasis mine)
If we are souls, I would think by the very nature of that it would be obvious we are. Anyways whether it is obvious or not, to say we are souls but cannot witness it seems more irrational then to say we can witness we are souls if we are souls. To me it is so manifestly obvious that I am a soul. Please don't get into this define a soul etc, just witness your true existence, and everything becomes easy.
Why would it be irrational? I think this is a misstep. It would certainly be convenient, but life is not always what we desire.
(December 9, 2015 at 11:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 5. Consciousness and non-consciousness and the supposed in between stages.Think of the weird malformed thoughts that occur when you are rousing from sleep to wakefulness. There is an in-between in which things only make partial sense.
I think it's obvious that at a point there has to be something alive. The step from non-consciousness to consciousness would need many stages and yet there would at the end have to be one stage that does that, yet it's obvious there is nothing in between that. Either it's conscious or not. Lesser degrees of mind is still mind. Yet at the end there has to be a step even to the small dint of consciousness, for non-concsiousness to that, is so drastic, there can't be single step of mutation. It is so complex. Pointing to similar arguments that been debunked for the eye or what not, doesn't do away with this problem. I want you guys to think about this paradox.
(December 9, 2015 at 11:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 6. Non-Arbitrary nature of morality proves it to be eternal.(emphasis mine)
If God can decide morals, they would be arbitrary. If he can create morality out of nothing, he would of decided it. Yet we know morality is not arbitrary and that God can create evolution. If God can create evolution but cannot create morality from nothing, then neither can evolution. Therefore morality is eternal. And morality also needs a mind for to exist so an eternal mind surely contained it.
We do? If I sample the varying morals of the world, there seems a distinct arbitrariness, from the hate speech laws of Europe to the honor crimes in parts of the middle east.
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