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RE: Christian argued that everything must have a creator

December 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm

(December 7, 2015 at 5:57 pm)dyresand Wrote: christians arguing for creation need to understand that even god needs a creator.

(December 7, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: But only if they want to argue that everything needs a creator.

Which is NOT what they argue.

Everything which begins to exist has a creator.

Now if god never began to exist, then he does not need a creator. But if the universe never began to exist, then it does not need a creator, either.

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