(December 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm)athrock Wrote:(December 7, 2015 at 5:57 pm)dyresand Wrote: christians arguing for creation need to understand that even god needs a creator.
(December 7, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: But only if they want to argue that everything needs a creator.
Which is NOT what they argue.
Everything which begins to exist has a creator.
Now if god never began to exist, then he does not need a creator. But if the universe never began to exist, then it does not need a creator, either.
The guy I was debating with was a Christian, and he argued simply that everything requires a creator except God. He didn't give any reason for this exception, so the question of who created God is relevant. Whether or not he argued that God didn't begin and therefore doesn't require a creator, it still leads to further questions about why this is the case.
