Trinity?

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[quote="Godschild"]
You are accepting the way the Jewish leaders of Jesus day thought. These men did not want a Messiah period, that would have removed all their power, so these power hungry men denounced Christ...

Are you basing your opinions on your imagination or actual history? Jewish leaders hungered for a messiah who would deliver them from Roman occupation. There were many such messiah candidates, perhaps the most famous of whom was John the Baptist (and please don't claim that he denied messiahship in the Bible as actual history shows us that he had a following that persisted for centuries). A candidate who could perform repeated magic powers would have been welcomed

No, my statement is based on the OT prophecies. They wanted a Messiah that would deliver them from the hands of Rome, Gods plan was of a greater magnitude than this, He wanted man kind to be delivered from a world of sin. John may very well had a following for a time after Jesus but that does not make him a Messiah and he did denounce the idea of himself as the Messiah. John's teachings were forgiveness of sin not a battle to rid the Jews of Rome. John taught only humility and forgiveness and he was put to death for what he believed. Jesus was not doing miracles in the way the Jewish preist thought was proper for a Messiah, this is why they rejected Him, God had always said that the Jews wanted Him to meet their desires in their way and not His.

The messiah, as Padriac pointed out, was not supposed to be a lamb of God or God-incarnate but a mortal warlord. Jesus' claims, if he existed and he had made them, would have been blasphemous:

Deuteronomy
13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

The above verses have only to do with prophets not the Messiah, please use the verses as the are meant to be. Padriac has no idea what he's talking about. Read the prophecies about the Messiah in the OT. Even His death is discribed in the book of Psalm. Jesus was mortal wasn't He, the Jewish preist took His life. How is it that God can blasphem Himself that makes no sense at all.

YHWH is the trinity, the Father is one person, Jesus is one person and the Holy Spirit is one person, all equal, all one God (YHWY), each with different responsibilities but all of the same mind.

Christianity is the only religion that tries to be monotheistic and polytheistic at the same time.

The christian faith only claims one God period.

The reason you believe the Jews say there is no intercessor,

...is because it's in the actual scriptures.
Isaiah
43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
No savior who "sits at the right hand" of God.

You have misunderstood the verse DP, when the word LORD appears in all caps the reference is to YHWH the unspeakable name of God according to the Jewish people. As I stated before YHWH is the Trinity, the verse is truthful and because the verse says YHWH that includes Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

the high priest was the intercessor between YHWH and the people,

The high priest has no claims of divinity nor is he worshiped nor does he have the power to forgive sins. This is a failed equivocation.

You are correct in the underlined part of your statment but not in the last sentence. The high preist was the intercessor between the people and YHWH, they stood in the Holy of Holies and offered the sacrifice to YHWH, for the people, in forgiveness of their sins. No they were not an intercessor like Christ they were the fore shadowing of Christ.

Also Jesus was not abandoned by the Father and He was not abandoned by YHWH, that would mean He, the Father and Holy Spirit would of abandoned Him and He never left Himself behind nor did He turn His back on Himself.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

This does not mean the Father abandoned the Son, He raised Him from death on the third day. This verse means, as the sins of the entire world past, present and future were poured upon Christ the Father could not look upon Him or relieve His suffering from that great burden.