RE: Do you think that one day religion will become a thing of the past
December 14, 2015 at 3:30 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: @Hanky, I've seen the notion bandied around that god stories (or god persistence) may be related to the administration of proto cities.......but never that they would have been impossible or even significantly more difficult. Even this, however, ignores a wide gap between behavioral modernity and city building, we already had gods for quite some time..and yet they didn't help us build cities. Even hunter gatherers built cities, so a confluence of god and grain doesn't strike me as any more convincing.
It's always seemed simpler, to me, to assume that cities had gods because cities had people, and people had gods. Their presence was coincidental and unavoidable. What suggests to us that city building or admin would have been easier with religion and gods thrown in the mix...we can certainly see innumerable examples of precisely the opposite within recorded history?
Toss me some lit man, so I can read up on this agreement of anthropologists.
The idea of agriculture as the mother of urban settlements is what I learned in college (that's a school for higher education, just in case you wonder), albeit this was 30 years ago. I know theories change, but it makes the best sense because cities were not observed up until the time that the practice of agriculture was practiced intensively. So, have new discoveries since led away from this old idea, or is somebody just throwing cause and effect out the window and calling whatever they are arguing on whatever they may wish?
Hunter-gatherers built cities? You did say "cities", which I believe must consist of at very least permanent settlements by more than a handful of allied families, and an established political system. Hunter-gatherers doing this is unlikely, in that they need to keep moving in search of fresher, less-picked-over foraging grounds.
Anyway, where did who point to and call it a "city" established by hunter-gatherers?
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