RE: The role of Islam in the current conflicts
December 20, 2015 at 12:41 am
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2015 at 12:45 am by CapnAwesome.)
(December 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 19, 2015 at 5:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: You have to be careful with who you link to. The Neturei Karta are a very strange, very religious and very small cult in the Jewish world, notable for attending holocaust denial conferences. I think to use them as an example of Jews being against Israel is pretty bad form. Not that there aren't Jews that think Israel is a bad idea. Many secular Jews in the US do.
Then, why don't the same be applied to ISIS ? just arguing, that many conflicts -like the conflict in Syria- is actually witnessing the acts of a small extremist weird sect in the Muslim world calling itself "ISIS".
Above all, here is a quote from the Neturei Katra about page :
Quote:Neturei Karta is not - as is often alleged - a small sect or an extremist group of "ultra-orthodox" Jews. The Neturei Karta have added nothing to nor have they taken anything away from the written and oral law of the Torah as it is expressed in the Halacha and the Shulchan Aruch. The Neturei Karta are fighting the changes and inroads made by political Zionism during the past one-hundred odd years. Guided by the rabbis of our time and under the inspiring leadership of the late Reb Amram Blau, the Neturei Karta refuse to recognize the right of anyone to establish a "Jewish" state during the present period of exile.
Your statement, about the amounts of secular Jews who are against Israel, approve the above statement. Denying the holocaust is an opinion, that should be protected under the laws & rules of the freedom of speech.
Many atheists too, deny the massacres of Israel against Muslims, and ironically it's an accepted view despite the modern evidence that includes documents, graves & video footages.
In that case, denying the holocaust should not be a view that demonizes its carrier.
Because ISIS has hundreds of times the numbers of people as Neturei Karta. Maybe thousands. I would be very concerned for the world if Neturei Karta had nearly the popularity as ISIS. That they claim to not be extremists because they are following the Torah or Talmud is exactly what ISIS would say about why they aren't extremists, and both of them would be right about following their respective holy books. ISIS follows the Qu'ran better than any other Islamic group. Neturei Karta is only not ISIS because they are a small group. ISIS is not small. ISIS has conquered countries. Neturei Karta couldn't conquer a bagel shop.
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