(December 24, 2015 at 12:15 am)Delicate Wrote:(December 23, 2015 at 9:09 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Theists have not managed to convince me that their idea of gods or god are true. That's it really.
I don't think that's enough.
Someone can be unconvinced because they are irrational. Because they are prejudiced, or stubborn. Because they have an emotional commitment to their view that flies in the face of the evidence. They can be unconvinced because they are stupid or incompetent.
So it's not enough to say you are unconvinced. You have to show that you have made a reasonable attempt at examining purported evidence, and had good reasons for deeming them unconvincing.
Now THAT would be convincing. Can you do that?
There was a time when everybody believed in elves and fairies. This was the way the simple folk explained certain phenomena, flint arrow heads were "fairy shot" and sudden pains were caused by being shot by a fairy, that's why they are called "shooting pains". Belief in god is no different, it is a way for the feeble minded to explain things to themselves without actually finding out what actually is going on. What you are doing is using the medieval technique of having simplistic and vapid ideas for things and slapping your hands together and saying "that's that then god did it" you seem to see it as plus that you can hold on to such outmoded ideas when in fact it just shows you as being intellectually bankrupt. The answer to no question when properly investigated, has required a god or any other supernatural or paranormal explanation your position is only backed up by empty words that have been thought up by people trying to wish their stupid and delusional beliefs into being even a little likely and they all fail badly. I find unconvincing because they are not backed by actual evidence. I find them unconvincing because arguments can be made to support any position you want to take. I find them unconvincing because the thing they are trying to support is the most unlikely thing that I can imagine.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.