RE: Best Living Spokesman for Atheism
December 24, 2015 at 11:06 am
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2015 at 11:19 am by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 24, 2015 at 12:15 am)Delicate Wrote:(December 23, 2015 at 9:09 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Theists have not managed to convince me that their idea of gods or god are true. That's it really.
I don't think that's enough.
Someone can be unconvinced because they are irrational. Because they are prejudiced, or stubborn. Because they have an emotional commitment to their view that flies in the face of the evidence. They can be unconvinced because they are stupid or incompetent.
So it's not enough to say you are unconvinced. You have to show that you have made a reasonable attempt at examining purported evidence, and had good reasons for deeming them unconvincing.
Now THAT would be convincing. Can you do that?
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Christopher Hitchens, who happens to be dead - as in unlikely to be conscious anywhere like the place where smug, cruel believers may fantasize of seeing him tortured in
It is you, not us who claims to know things that others cannot see. It is you, the theist who asserts your claim to know a supernatural, and powerful god which is also a reality outside of its believer's minds. You take the position that we ignore obvious evidence, but you haven't provided even the smallest scrap of that. Just because you call it evidence doesn't make it so! If it requires a willingness to be convinced, a tendency to jump to pre-supposed conclusions, and a bit of imagination, then this does not evidence make! If you have evidence which is empirical and not rhetorical, than you have the chance to show it here. Nobody's stopping you, so why won't you do that?
I don't believe your god really exists, and that does not mean I believe he doesn't exist - I have not eliminated every last possibility. There's an important difference between "I don't believe" and the assertive "There is no"! Therefore, I have never said he does not or could not exist, nor will I ever tell anyone that.
Please show some evidence, if you really think there is any that cannot be chalked up to emotional chemistry in social situations or coincidence.
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