RE: A conversation with Robvalue about religion.
December 30, 2015 at 9:59 am
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2015 at 10:06 am by robvalue.)
Your first post above made good sense right up until you started talking about spirituality. Then I'm afraid I have no clue what you mean after that. I understand this is all very real to you, I don't doubt that. But you are describing a world I have no experience of, one extremely unlike the one I've spent nearly 39 years in.
I don't know how much further we can get, but I appreciate you trying.
You seem obsessed with god's opinion of everything. If he wanted mindless automatons, he should have made them. If he wanted things that don't think and just follow him around doing whatever he says, he should have made them. But, if he exists at all, he gave us a brain and the ability to decide for ourselves what is important. You're suggesting he did so just to expect us to act as if we didn't have one.
What could a being as powerful as a god possibly get out of us submitting to it? It's almost as if it only exists if enough people believe in it...
I don't know how much further we can get, but I appreciate you trying.
You seem obsessed with god's opinion of everything. If he wanted mindless automatons, he should have made them. If he wanted things that don't think and just follow him around doing whatever he says, he should have made them. But, if he exists at all, he gave us a brain and the ability to decide for ourselves what is important. You're suggesting he did so just to expect us to act as if we didn't have one.
What could a being as powerful as a god possibly get out of us submitting to it? It's almost as if it only exists if enough people believe in it...
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