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Liking your Truth
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RE: Liking your Truth
(December 31, 2015 at 9:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Wallym

I came to this argument, and it may have helped me somewhat, but at the end, I'm not sure if it had anything to do with my realization and sight of my soul/God/the light all over again, but it may help you:

1. If we don't know objectively praise/value/goodness/perpetual identity is true, it's reasonable to believe we don't know essential features about it.
2. If we know it has to be eternally linked such that it's somewhat eternal or of a magical nature or it must be linked to God and the Absolute or know a soul is required for us to know it's true,  we know essential features about it (ie. the only way to know it's true is this and that...).
3. Therefore makes no sense to essentially say we don't know objective praise/value/goodness/perpetual identity out of saying we don't know if magic or soul or etc, is true, because in this case, we realized some essential features about it, which should make us realize we do know objective praise/value/goodness/perpetual identity is true.    

In other words, we are rejecting we have any objective knowledge about by having knowledge about it, which makes no sense. It should make us realize, we have knowledge of it in reality and accept the whole package.

I would have to think on it quite a while to come up with an opinion on the overall reasoning.  But I have a problem with one of the assertions.

I believe it to be a certainty that objective value can not exist in the universe as I understand it.

Because I can only have knowledge relating to the universe as I understand it, I can't have knowledge of the nature of the universe that would include objective value.  So to your second point, I do not have the knowledge that some magical nature would result in objective value or if anything could result in objective value, because that would require knowledge of the universe as I do not understand it.

It's an interesting idea, but it requires people to think they have knowledge of essential features that I don't think they could really possess.
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Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Chad32 - December 31, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Confused Ape - December 31, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by paulpablo - December 31, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Jenny A - December 31, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:53 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - December 31, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by bennyboy - December 31, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - December 31, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Alex K - December 31, 2015 at 8:36 pm
Liking your Truth - by LadyForCamus - December 31, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - January 1, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 2:30 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by Silver - December 31, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by thesummerqueen - January 1, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by Grandizer - January 1, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Alex K - January 1, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by thesummerqueen - January 1, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by bennyboy - January 3, 2016 at 11:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Brian37 - January 1, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 2, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by ignoramus - January 2, 2016 at 9:35 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Heat - January 4, 2016 at 1:39 am

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