"Shia Muslims believe he should be from the descendants of the prophet.
Sunni Muslims believe he should be from the tribe of the prophet (i.e Quraish)."
Those are some stupid beliefs. People can't even prove Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. All they have a is a list of invented names in the Hadith.
To be clear, the Caliphate is a stupid idea, and those who would want to impose it on the whole Ummah (and perhaps everyone else) are idiots. They can't expect all of the widely different points of view to get along perfectly. People kill each other over prayer position and simple verse interpretation. Just recently Saudi banned, what they call, "liberal interpretation of the Quran" (just search Raif Badawi). There will always be tension, even if it doesn't show.
Don't get me started on this Mohammed Ibn And Al Wahhab character. He's a loser and bully. But there's no objective way of determining if his views on the literature are wrong, and millions adore him.
While we're on the subject of interpretation, has anyone got their hands on the new Study Quran (released late 2015 I think)? It includes commentary from a wide variety of sources, including Shia. But it's a bit pricey so I will have to wait a while before getting it.
I wish there were more reasonable people like you AtlasS33, but instead we have to regularly contend with gadzookery and doublespeak from victims of Saudi brainwashing like Imran Ibn Mansour and Hamza Tzortis. My brain hurts from keep on listening to nonsense.
Sunni Muslims believe he should be from the tribe of the prophet (i.e Quraish)."
Those are some stupid beliefs. People can't even prove Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. All they have a is a list of invented names in the Hadith.
To be clear, the Caliphate is a stupid idea, and those who would want to impose it on the whole Ummah (and perhaps everyone else) are idiots. They can't expect all of the widely different points of view to get along perfectly. People kill each other over prayer position and simple verse interpretation. Just recently Saudi banned, what they call, "liberal interpretation of the Quran" (just search Raif Badawi). There will always be tension, even if it doesn't show.
Don't get me started on this Mohammed Ibn And Al Wahhab character. He's a loser and bully. But there's no objective way of determining if his views on the literature are wrong, and millions adore him.
While we're on the subject of interpretation, has anyone got their hands on the new Study Quran (released late 2015 I think)? It includes commentary from a wide variety of sources, including Shia. But it's a bit pricey so I will have to wait a while before getting it.
I wish there were more reasonable people like you AtlasS33, but instead we have to regularly contend with gadzookery and doublespeak from victims of Saudi brainwashing like Imran Ibn Mansour and Hamza Tzortis. My brain hurts from keep on listening to nonsense.
