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Liking your Truth
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RE: Liking your Truth
(January 1, 2016 at 12:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I know 1+1=2 because I see the reality. I know it cannot equal 3 through observation and reasoning (logic that is properly basic).

So I ask you again, what makes you certain objective human value cannot exist in a materialistic world? In this case, you objectively would know something objectively about human value? Where does this knowledge come from? How do you know this? If you are sure about this property of objective human value, why aren't you sure about objective human value?

If you are only going to tackle the conclusion without addressing the argument, then we cannot get anywhere.
(using the understood values of numerical, plus, and equal symbols)

Doesn't your belief that 1+1=2 and cannot equal 3 assume that there is no 'magical nature' possible in the laws of mathematics?  

To you it's clearer that 1+1=3 is false, because 1+1=3 is so well defined.  

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With Objective Human Value you've created the illusion of an idea.  You've created a name that doesn't actually represent anything.  I would be interested to see you define it because I suspect even the idea of what you wish Objective value to be can not exist in materialism.  I'm fairly certain the laws of physics would reduce several elements of what you are trying to argue for to the equivalent of 1+1=3.

So if you have the objective knowledge of the equation 1+1=3 to say it does not exist based on your observation and reasoning of mathematics, I think I can use observation and reasoning based on physics in the same way?
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Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Chad32 - December 31, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Confused Ape - December 31, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by paulpablo - December 31, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Jenny A - December 31, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:53 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - December 31, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by bennyboy - December 31, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - December 31, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MTL - December 31, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - December 31, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Alex K - December 31, 2015 at 8:36 pm
Liking your Truth - by LadyForCamus - December 31, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by drfuzzy - January 1, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 2:30 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by Silver - December 31, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by thesummerqueen - January 1, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by Grandizer - January 1, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Alex K - January 1, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by thesummerqueen - January 1, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 1, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by bennyboy - January 3, 2016 at 11:54 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Brian37 - January 1, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by MysticKnight - January 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by henryp - January 2, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by ignoramus - January 2, 2016 at 9:35 pm
RE: Liking your Truth - by Heat - January 4, 2016 at 1:39 am

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