(January 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Oh I know objective value and materialism are incompatible.
In the case of 1+1=3, I know to be wrong because I know 1+1=2.
The reason I know objective value and materialism are incompatible is because I know they are by it's nature spiritual and magical, and linked to an absolute being.
In the same way, if I didn't know 1+1=2, I would not know 1+1=3 as false, but it would meaningless, the same is true of not knowing materialism is incompatible with objective value.
And knowledge of materialism alone is not sufficient to reject objective value to be incompatible with it, it necessarily needs you to understand what objective value is.
And so in the case of rejecting 1+1=3 is through 100% knowledge of 1+1=2. The same is true of rejecting materialism compatible with objective human value, it's with 100% knowledge of spiritual reality of human value.
In the end, I think we just disagree about the knowledge we have of objective value, spirtual/magical, and absolute beings, and that's where our paths part on this topic.