Liking your Truth

[bennyboy]

I know 1+1=2 because I see the reality. I know it cannot equal 3 through observation and reasoning (logic that is properly basic).

So I ask you again, what makes you certain objective human value cannot exist in a materialistic world? In this case, you objectively would know something objectively about human value? Where does this knowledge come from? How do you know this? If you are sure about this property of objective human value, why aren't you sure about objective human value?

If you are only going to tackle the conclusion without addressing the argument, then we cannot get anywhere.

Numbers are not some mystical thing for which you need to find evidence or proof.  They are LABELS, and of something very unambiguous-- quantity.

The word "value" is not a label for a thing.  You can, if you want, identify a particular kind of value and objectify it: in dollar terms, for example, or in number of healthy offspring to reach adulthood and successfully breed. But to say there may be "objective human value" is saying, "x may be y." It may be-- but only if that's how you (arbitrarily) choose to define it.