(December 31, 2015 at 10:32 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:(December 31, 2015 at 8:09 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote: I don't have to prove anything because the whole point is how one interprets the Bible.Does not having to prove anything include the statement "the whole point is how one interprets the Bible?"
(December 31, 2015 at 8:09 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote: I'll give an example that works in my mind. The religious often like to point out that there must be a god since all of reality had to have a beginning. You can't prove or disprove it but it does seem logical to the human mind.What would the point of view of an all knowing God be like?
The same can be said for interpreting the Bible. once I read it it makes much more sense from a primitive bronze age goat herder point of view than that of an all knowing god.
(December 31, 2015 at 8:09 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote: There fore my logical conclusion is that the Bible (like all other holy books) was written by man who claimed to be inspired by a god so as to propagate their way of thinking.No...... your argument from ignorance says it is much more likely.
You can't prove that i'm wrong about that nor can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am right. However, logic says it is much more likely.
(December 31, 2015 at 8:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Reminds me of the (very) old joke about the missionary and the native.The last statement is factually inaccurate. There is no Biblical evidence that Jesus would forgive a man of his sins if he is ignorant of the gospel. Point of fact God says it is evident (Galatians 3:11), and it is written that there will be people saved from every nation, tribe, people and language (Revelation 5:9,7:9). Therefore there will be no nation, tribe, people, or language, in all of history that will have not had the gospel preached to them.
The missionary has just finished relating the principle behind the salvation offered by Jesus. The native scratches his head for a bit and says, 'Ok, let me see if I've got this straight. You've told me all about your Jesus. If I believe in him, I'll go to Heaven and be happy, but if I don't believe in him, I'll got to Hell and be miserable, is that right?'
'Excellent!' crows the missionary. 'You've got it exactly!'
The native ponders a few more moments, then asks, 'Suppose you had never come to my country and told me about Jesus. Would I still go to this Hell place?'
'Oh no, my son. Jesus would forgive your savage ignorance and you'd go to Heaven just as if you believed in him with all your heart.'
Well, gosh. That makes it so much better.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.