Existence of Jesus

[Mark]

It is pretty hard to crucify someone who did not exist.As a matter of fact crucicixion was the popular method of execution by the Romans,so this was not exclusive to Christ.I think I have presented plenty of reasons in this forum to soldify my belief that Jesus the man or the historical Christ whichever you prefer to call him did not exist.If you have not done so already take the time to read some of my earlier posts in this forum.I argue not from arrogance but from knowledge that I feel is sufficient enough to myself to determine that Jesus and the entire system of christianity is a myth.

Well, I did read and if I'm not mistaken, you said that the absence of a written record was the biggest obstacle to your acceptance that the man Jesus existed. For the time being I am not debating across the whole front of your belief about Jesus, just that one point. As I have said, it would be rather remarkable if a written record did exist, given how very, very few Roman state records actually have come down.

Also Jesus was mentioned by the classical historian Josephus, who was not a Christian. It is not impossible of course that a person would be mentioned by a historian of that day and not exist, but considering how very few people of ordinary birth get named in Roman histories (Caesar for example mentions a few common soldiers in connection with extraordinarily brave deeds during his campaigns), it would be just a little strange if someone was mentioned who did not, in fact, exist.

I didn't say that crucifixion was exclusive to Jesus, but that it was the usual punishment for sedition. Personally I don't refer to Jesus as the Christ, since that is a religious belief that I don't share.

Quite honestly I fail to see why the question of the existence of this certain man should be a particularly important one for atheists, but I am suspicious that what should be a cold question of fact is often tinged with atheist belief and a distaste for Christianity.