RE: To call them autistic or people with autism
January 10, 2016 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2016 at 11:50 am by MTL.)
(January 10, 2016 at 10:56 am)pool Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 11:19 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Your point is? You want to start a dick waiving competition about who is more oppressed? Tell me about the last time you were denied an education because you were a woman? Tell me about the time that nearly entire schools made fun of because you were a woman? Tell me the last you got fired for being a woman.
What your listing as insults are insults because they are abdications of your identity, hence if I say you look like a man its insulting. Just like you say I look like a woman its insulting. Hardly makes bbeing a woman a insult. Being called a bitch is a insult, so is being called a dick, or a prick. I use those words sometimes not because I want to insult women, but because their colloquial definitions match what I'm describing. When I call you a cunt, its not because I'm envisioning a vagina, its describing a whiny person with no back bone. It really has nothing to do with gender beyond the fact that historically people used people genetalia to refer to the worst aspects of both gender stereo types. Both gender types. Unfortunately equality is a bitch when everyone is being shit on.
As for your last part? That's hardly sexism, that shity characterizing of people you actually do meet. You say the same thing across all genders and races. You have the douchy pick up artist, the dumb jock, the pick up artist, the thug, and that is just off the top of my head. Want more women in writing? Cut the I'm a victim bullshit and get girls to pursue their own goals. Be it writing or having a family or being a fucking astronaut. Women can be whatever they want just as much as a man can, and the last thing they need is a bunch of people infantilizing them and saying they are perpetual victims.
Also, I can think of a number of tv shows that do not follow those dumb characterizations at all. I.E star trek Voyager, star trek deep space nine, battle star Galactica, firefly, forever. And that is just what I can name off the top of my head. You have to remember TV shows use characterizing extensively and get they often appeal to the lowest common denominator.
home run
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I don't mean to offend, but some women seriously need to get rid of this victim complex of theirs.
I acknowledged that my post was poorly-phrased,
I am actually annoyed with myself because it conveyed the exact opposite
of what I was endeavoring to say.
I don't mind if people disagree with me,
but I don't like being misunderstood,
and I hate when it is my own fault,
which it is, in this case.
I actually agree with LemonVariable insofar it should NEVER become a contest
as to which group suffers more;
there is no excuse for ignorance, stereotyping, or stigmatizing, ANYWHERE.
However, both you and LemonVariable are guilty of labeling feminism as "victims".
It is one thing if he wants to criticize me for sounding like I am starting a competition to see who is the most oppressed; that is valid.
But for him, or you, to turn around and say that feminists need to stop whining and playing the victim card
is unacceptable;
This is self-contradictory for LemonVariable to draw attention to how Autistic people are stigmatized,
yet call feminists victims.
Women are still paid less than men,
still oppressed in many parts of the world,
still having their genitals mutilated,
and right here, in North America, we also face a growing problem of human trafficking of young women;
...yet he wants to dismiss any feminists as "victims",
while holding up Autistic people as unfairly persecuted
...and in the same breath claim that it is unsavoury for different groups to compete
for the title of 'Most-Persecuted'.
Now, that addresses LemonVariable's self-contradiction;
But since you've jumped in with your two cents, Pool,
let me pose you a different question:
Do you consider the "Black Lives Matter" movement as "whining"?
or does it absolutely have legitimacy, given how black people are still treated today?
Or what about LGBT Pride?
Lots of people accuse them of whining, too.